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Old 05-16-2019 | 06:36 AM
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Originally Posted by MD-11Loader
Agreed. I’m sure it was RN. A snake oil salesmen if there was one.
Funny, RN was exactly the one saying "Stop asking for raises, you're never getting them" in December of last year.
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Old 05-16-2019 | 10:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Bassman1985
Apparently our management is lying to our new hires in class on day 1 of indoc. They are telling them explicitly that the company wants to give us raises and ALPA is standing in the way of that. The only way ALPA could be standing in the way of raises is if they come with concessions elsewhere. If these raises were clean, the company would have our MEC signing off in a heartbeat. Also, that several members of management are running around saying that the Compass planes are coming here for sure. Done deal, just no dates yet.

Heard from the crew roominati in DFW yesterday.
This is 100% true. Just not the whole story. Yes, the company wants to give us raises. What they failed to mention to the new hires is that they want to give us raises in exchange for several gives from us elsewhere. Which is obviously unacceptable.
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Old 05-16-2019 | 10:54 AM
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Originally Posted by MD-11Loader
Agreed. I’m sure it was RN. A snake oil salesmen if there was one.
I believe so. Also, he’s one of the ones saying the Compass birds are for sure, among others.
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Old 05-16-2019 | 12:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Bassman1985
I believe so. Also, he’s one of the ones saying the Compass birds are for sure, among others.
There's no way anyone in management could say that we are getting compass's planes if it was certain. There'd be an NDA and they wouldn't be able to tell anyone. Do they think it's likely? Maybe, but i look at the fact that they are spreading that rumor as confirmation that it's not a fact.
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Old 05-16-2019 | 12:12 PM
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There's no way anyone in management could say that we are getting compass's planes if it was certain. There'd be an NDA and they wouldn't be able to tell anyone. Do they think it's likely? Maybe, but i look at the fact that they are spreading that rumor as confirmation that it's not a fact.
Kinda like the 175 CA that's going around telling everybody that he's already been hired as the LAX CPO.
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Old 05-16-2019 | 12:20 PM
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Originally Posted by bigtime209
Kinda like the 175 CA that's going around telling everybody that he's already been hired as the LAX CPO.
I agree with that.

And I’m pretty sure that NY was announced and then a CP was selected. Those kind of jobs usually have to be advertised to the pilot group as a whole, even if they have someone in mind.
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Old 05-20-2019 | 07:42 PM
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So then, I guess the plan is to just "negotiate" until most of the MEC flows, the economy ****s the bed and the company can tell us to go ******* ourselves again for real. Ok cool.

That GoJet DEC bonus doesn't look so bad anymore anyway. At least I could get to Spirit.
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Old 05-21-2019 | 03:25 AM
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Originally Posted by BIueSideUp
So then, I guess the plan is to just "negotiate" until most of the MEC flows, the economy ****s the bed and the company can tell us to go ******* ourselves again for real. Ok cool.

That GoJet DEC bonus doesn't look so bad anymore anyway. At least I could get to Spirit.
If you can get to spirit then why not go?? Seriously? Are you waiting for mainline or flow?
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Old 05-21-2019 | 03:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Pedro4President
If you can get to spirit then why not go?? Seriously? Are you waiting for mainline or flow?
I was just cracking a joke with reference to their "flow" program. From what I hear, it's shady at best. It would take a few more good hard kicks in the nuts here before I'd leave to go be the plug at another regional. I have regularly updated applications in with UA, DL, AA, FX, NK, F9 and WN. I would love to get to mainline asap but if Spirit calls tomorrow, I'm outta here. The thing is, my logbook likely isn't thick enough for the computer to even let my app see the light of day yet.
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Old 05-21-2019 | 04:12 AM
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Originally Posted by BIueSideUp
I was just cracking a joke with reference to their "flow" program. From what I hear, it's shady at best. It would take a few more good hard kicks in the nuts here before I'd leave to go be the plug at another regional. I have regularly updated applications in with UA, DL, AA, FX, NK, F9 and WN. I would love to get to mainline asap but if Spirit calls tomorrow, I'm outta here. The thing is, my logbook likely isn't thick enough for the computer to even let my app see the light of day yet.
Ahhh it’s too early and I didn’t even know gojet had a flow to spirit.
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