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Old 06-06-2019 | 04:00 PM
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Originally Posted by highfarfast
HSD/emp#/C is deep DECS that only check airman can access?
My B, that works too. I guess anybody can see that they’re out flying the line...if one were to check...

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Old 06-06-2019 | 04:13 PM
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Originally Posted by blackbox348
My B, that works too. I guess anybody can see that they’re out flying the line...if one were to check...

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You’re fine. So many people don’t bother with FOS here anyway. I just like pointing out what you can do with FOS so perhaps pilots will learn to use it.

The company has no motivation to give us raises right now so they’re going to say “we offered raises and the union rejected” when in actuality they offered raises significantly less than PSA with 11 contractual concessions attached to it. Now company is making sure the negotiating committee are flying so they can’t meet and talk about it. Welcome to Envoy.
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Old 06-06-2019 | 04:30 PM
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Originally Posted by blackbox348
Any check airman with Deep DECS could negate this comment, the NG is out flying the line.
They can do a phone meeting.
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Old 06-06-2019 | 04:33 PM
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Originally Posted by MD-11Loader
They can do a phone meeting.
Which id anyone bothered to read the notice of an MEC meeting they would see it was a teleconference amongst the MEC.
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Old 06-06-2019 | 04:34 PM
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Originally Posted by MD-11Loader
They can do a phone meeting.
Couldn’t they have done one last week then? Does one actually think a phone meeting occurred?
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Old 06-06-2019 | 04:34 PM
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Originally Posted by MD-11Loader
They can do a phone meeting.
That implies they’re all free from flying duties, and necessary sleeping times associated with flying duties, all at the same time.

I’m fine with them needing the time off work duties to do what they need to do. And that might still be a phone meeting. But they still have to find a way to meet. Management says no.
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Old 06-06-2019 | 04:46 PM
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Originally Posted by buddies8
How long does it take the mec to have there email approved by the alpa lawyers before we get it?
It takes 2 minutes, unless they don't like
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Old 06-06-2019 | 04:48 PM
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Originally Posted by highfarfast
You’re fine. So many people don’t bother with FOS here anyway. I just like pointing out what you can do with FOS so perhaps pilots will learn to use it.

The company has no motivation to give us raises right now so they’re going to say “we offered raises and the union rejected” when in actuality they offered raises significantly less than PSA with 11 contractual concessions attached to it. Now company is making sure the negotiating committee are flying so they can’t meet and talk about it. Welcome to Envoy.
And yet we still deliver an excellent product. Maybe “we” are the morons in this equation. Pretty pathetic that a highly motivated and intelligent group of people can’t seem to figure a way out of this.
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Old 06-06-2019 | 04:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Cyio
And yet we still deliver an excellent product. Maybe “we” are the morons in this equation. Pretty pathetic that a highly motivated and intelligent group of people can’t seem to figure a way out of this.
I’m not going to argue with that.
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Old 06-06-2019 | 06:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Cyio
And yet we still deliver an excellent product. Maybe “we” are the morons in this equation. Pretty pathetic that a highly motivated and intelligent group of people can’t seem to figure a way out of this.
Pilots are their own worst enemy. Company offered 200% OT, none left. Company knows pilots will fall for it every time. They send an email saying to fly .75 we fly at .77. Under blocking is not good. Can’t make money that way and also hurts the historical average leg time so now they will block it less. Union has ZERO leverage. Pilots fault.
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