Poor Union Communication
#341
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This outcome was as predictable as the one with the new reserve rules that were supposed to happen. All the P2P guys ran around telling folk that its coming and just a matter of putting it in language.
Then boom, they retracted after months of negotiating and NADA.
Now the same **** again signed AIP or not, Union got played, and they did not learn their lesson from the last time they got played.
It's a complete **** show from the union, take a lesson or something in how to deal with hostile management from the pros. But stop whining after you got played and stop the cooldown excuse.
Get educated and get it right the next time ... I mean we are paying a lot in dues EVERY paycheck and that is the best we get ... come on.
Then boom, they retracted after months of negotiating and NADA.
Now the same **** again signed AIP or not, Union got played, and they did not learn their lesson from the last time they got played.
It's a complete **** show from the union, take a lesson or something in how to deal with hostile management from the pros. But stop whining after you got played and stop the cooldown excuse.
Get educated and get it right the next time ... I mean we are paying a lot in dues EVERY paycheck and that is the best we get ... come on.
As such, I don’t care.
AIP please.
#342
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"but Embry Riddle promised I'd be at mainline by now!"
#343
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This outcome was as predictable as the one with the new reserve rules that were supposed to happen. All the P2P guys ran around telling folk that its coming and just a matter of putting it in language.
Then boom, they retracted after months of negotiating and NADA.
Now the same **** again signed AIP or not, Union got played, and they did not learn their lesson from the last time they got played.
It's a complete **** show from the union, take a lesson or something in how to deal with hostile management from the pros. But stop whining after you got played and stop the cooldown excuse.
Get educated and get it right the next time ... I mean we are paying a lot in dues EVERY paycheck and that is the best we get ... come on.
Then boom, they retracted after months of negotiating and NADA.
Now the same **** again signed AIP or not, Union got played, and they did not learn their lesson from the last time they got played.
It's a complete **** show from the union, take a lesson or something in how to deal with hostile management from the pros. But stop whining after you got played and stop the cooldown excuse.
Get educated and get it right the next time ... I mean we are paying a lot in dues EVERY paycheck and that is the best we get ... come on.
#344
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#346
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It depends. If the desired outcome is “wait and see what happens” with no specific timeframe, then a “cool-down” makes perfect sense. If the desired outcome is lower new-hire class sizes. Maybe marketing/education (billboards, Facebook ads, ADs on APC, etc.) would be a better use of union resources.
Personally, I’d rather see my union dues spent on negative advertising, instead of donut parties in the crew room, and do-nothing “cool-down” PUB events at Red Robin.
Personally, I’d rather see my union dues spent on negative advertising, instead of donut parties in the crew room, and do-nothing “cool-down” PUB events at Red Robin.
#347
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Yea, it’s not quite as simple as you want to think it is, especially when your management is playing hardball and has all the cards. Not sure what you think your union leadership can do to change anything right now. The reality is that the only thing management will react to, in terms of better pay and work rules, is staffing becoming critical (in their eyes, not yours) due to classes not being filled. When that happens, then you can expect management to work with you to some extent.
#348
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It depends. If the desired outcome is “wait and see what happens” with no specific timeframe, then a “cool-down” makes perfect sense. If the desired outcome is lower new-hire class sizes. Maybe marketing/education (billboards, Facebook ads, ADs on APC, etc.) would be a better use of union resources.
Personally, I’d rather see my union dues spent on negative advertising, instead of donut parties in the crew room, and do-nothing “cool-down” PUB events at Red Robin.
Personally, I’d rather see my union dues spent on negative advertising, instead of donut parties in the crew room, and do-nothing “cool-down” PUB events at Red Robin.
#349
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