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06-28-2019 | 05:04 PM

#121

Cyio

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Originally Posted by martyByrde

Regardless of who is at fault, I believe the union doesn't know what to do. The answer to failed negotiations can’t be a do-nothing, business as usual, “cool down period.” And if the union is banking on low new-hire turnout to become their leverage, don’t forget what happened when the company needed DECs.

You are completely wrong. Hell the union did great, the company screwed up. If we took just pay at this point it would be weak and anger many people.

06-28-2019 | 05:19 PM

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I am going to say there is a 50/50 at fault here - the union went too far, should have just asked for no concessions and straight up pay increases only. That's what PSA and Piedmont got.

While it would have been nice, now we are getting delayed even further on the pay ...

How do you figure that the UNION went too far? They achieved a signed agreement in principal.

MANAGEMENT is the one saying they, themselves, went too far.

AIP or nothing should be everyone's stance right now.

06-28-2019 | 05:20 PM

#123

LowvalueFO

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Originally Posted by Cyio

You are completely wrong. Hell the union did great, the company screwed up. If we took just pay at this point it would be weak and anger many people.

You really don't get it, they got played like many times before ...

Meanwhile, the other 2 WO's get paid, while you get 0, nada, zilch.

Pedro saves millions on a monthly basis and looks good in the eyes of Daddy AA.

06-28-2019 | 05:28 PM

#124

martyByrde

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Originally Posted by Cyio

You are completely wrong. Hell the union did great, the company screwed up. If we took just pay at this point it would be weak and anger many people.

Yeah, because apparently “Great is what we’re going for.” Not progress. 🤔

06-28-2019 | 05:48 PM

#125

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Lot of newer accounts on here saying “pay raise now at any cost!” today.

06-28-2019 | 05:50 PM

#126

highfarfast

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Originally Posted by LowvalueFO

Hold our ground for AIP, which includes backpay. It all works out.

06-28-2019 | 05:53 PM

#127

Cyio

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Yeah way to be think the small game. You new here? If we get back pay what does it matter?

06-28-2019 | 06:04 PM

#128

MD-11Loader

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Originally Posted by LowvalueFO

Our pay isn’t the same as PSA though. I assume you know that, correct? PSA is on a blended rare, we are on two scales for captains, which means over 60% of your captains make significantly less than the rest of them. The union found a way to mitigate that disparity which would have left the B scale pilots underpaid. I applaud them for that. I don’t just want a raise. I want a raise that puts my total compensation on par with or better than PSA. Anything else is unacceptable.