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shinydiscoballs 03-26-2020 09:16 AM


Originally Posted by Cujo665 (Post 3012591)
I (we, but mostly me) tried in 2013. We had it worked out with APA for a single list. Short version is after three meetings the company wouldn't go along. Hopefully their attitude has changed. That said, you now have an APA BOD twice the size of the one we had to work with. Also, with the E190 going away, the gap jet fence, would have the be elsewhere. Finally, you have three WO eagles now instead of just one. First step, if I may suggest....
Envoy dump ALPA and select APA
Envoy then file single carrier against the other two Eagles forcing a representation vote. Same uniforms, same branding, same ticket sales source, same controlling parent, just about all the triggers for single carrier are already there. ALPA won't want to do it because they know it eventually leads to thousands of members leaving for another union. Obviously AA/Envoy win that and now everybody is APA.
The rest I'll leave to you. Feel free to call if you want the old paperwork on what was worked out previously.

Well said! I am not a fan of ALPA national; ask my father the TWA pilot.

Cyio 03-26-2020 09:23 AM


Originally Posted by Cujo665 (Post 3012591)
I (we, but mostly me) tried in 2013. We had it worked out with APA for a single list. Short version is after three meetings the company wouldn't go along. Hopefully their attitude has changed. That said, you now have an APA BOD twice the size of the one we had to work with. Also, with the E190 going away, the gap jet fence, would have the be elsewhere. Finally, you have three WO eagles now instead of just one. First step, if I may suggest....
Envoy dump ALPA and select APA
Envoy then file single carrier against the other two Eagles forcing a representation vote. Same uniforms, same branding, same ticket sales source, same controlling parent, just about all the triggers for single carrier are already there. ALPA won't want to do it because they know it eventually leads to thousands of members leaving for another union. Obviously AA/Envoy win that and now everybody is APA.
The rest I'll leave to you. Feel free to call if you want the old paperwork on what was worked out previously.

One could only hope

But seriously 03-26-2020 11:21 AM


Originally Posted by Cujo665 (Post 3012591)
I (we, but mostly me) tried in 2013. We had it worked out with APA for a single list. Short version is after three meetings the company wouldn't go along. Hopefully their attitude has changed. That said, you now have an APA BOD twice the size of the one we had to work with. Also, with the E190 going away, the gap jet fence, would have the be elsewhere. Finally, you have three WO eagles now instead of just one. First step, if I may suggest....
Envoy dump ALPA and select APA
Envoy then file single carrier against the other two Eagles forcing a representation vote. Same uniforms, same branding, same ticket sales source, same controlling parent, just about all the triggers for single carrier are already there. ALPA won't want to do it because they know it eventually leads to thousands of members leaving for another union. Obviously AA/Envoy win that and now everybody is APA.
The rest I'll leave to you. Feel free to call if you want the old paperwork on what was worked out previously.


A. Interesting. Thanks.
B. Probably not the time for it right now.
C. I’m not sure APA would want to trigger a vote at AA. How confident do you think they are that they’d win?

buddies8 03-26-2020 12:25 PM

First you have to decertify alpa and apa come on property seeking to represent you simultaneously.

merging the list, field of dreams

Cyio 03-26-2020 12:48 PM

Bad news all, the FEMA Waffle House Index is trending in the wrong direction. They only closed 100 for hurricane Katrina and are already up to 400 closures for Covid.

This could be it.

havick206 03-26-2020 12:51 PM


Originally Posted by Cyio (Post 3012845)
Bad news all, the FEMA Waffle House Index is trending in the wrong direction. They only closed 100 for hurricane Katrina and are already up to 400 closures for Covid.

This could be it.

This is the most accurate trend data out there.

MqWhistleblower 03-26-2020 02:50 PM

My paycheck is not showing up on epays? I wonder if Dougie is buying some more stock buyback with my paycheck.

Bassman1985 03-26-2020 02:58 PM


Originally Posted by MqWhistleblower (Post 3012987)
My paycheck is not showing up on epays? I wonder if Dougie is buying some more stock buyback with my paycheck.

Mine’s there.

MqWhistleblower 03-26-2020 03:15 PM

They just posted

GoFast8 03-26-2020 04:38 PM

So today in TX, Governor put out a mandatory 14-day quarantine for anyone coming from NY, NJ, CT or the city of New Orleans.
it says that “This order to self-quarantine shall not apply to people traveling in connection with military service, emergency response, health response, or critical-infrastructure functions, as may be determined by the Texas Division of Emergency Management.

I would assume we are under “Critical-infrastructure functions” but does anybody know where to find this in writing?


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