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Old 08-12-2021 | 08:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Lord Of Corn
Did they schedule you an atp ctp and orientation yet?
Negative, just an EFC for those details. They definitely are running short-staffed in the recruiting department so things aren't moving.

We were told after being given the "pre-offer" to expect to hear from them regarding the exact date come September. Spoke to my recruiter this morning who told me that all furloughed pilots/cadets are in class now, the most recent being this week IIRC

The ensuing classes will be new hires entirely.
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Old 08-13-2021 | 07:12 AM
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Originally Posted by captive apple
62 new planes is a big debt load.
thats why skw and rah will buy them with a 12 year contract with aag, then envoy will be free to park the e145's with no effect to the aag schedule.
easy.
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Envoy will shrink. That way when envoy flows it will look as a larger percentage of envoy pilots are flowing monthly.
Just an opinion based on past aag shaft jobs
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Old 08-15-2021 | 09:23 AM
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As AAG has more trouble paying their debts, the odds of Envoy or any of the other wholly-owneds getting spun-off or shutdown further increase. I'm sure a place like SkyWest or Republic would be happy to take newer E175s off of AA's hands.
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Old 08-15-2021 | 09:39 AM
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Originally Posted by 6ix9ineYearFlow
As AAG has more trouble paying their debts, the odds of Envoy or any of the other wholly-owneds getting spun-off or shutdown further increase. I'm sure a place like SkyWest or Republic would be happy to take newer E175s off of AA's hands.
If you haven't done so look at the last State of the airline. Where AAG paid 1 billion debt down overnight and is planning to reduce another 15 billion by 2030. Inflation is horrible for us but is helping AAG. Parker actually said AAG has too much liquidity.

UAL just added 40 billion debt with their purchase and DAL buying used planes is just delaying the inevitable.
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Old 08-15-2021 | 10:03 AM
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Originally Posted by dk104444
If you haven't done so look at the last State of the airline. Where AAG paid 1 billion debt down overnight and is planning to reduce another 15 billion by 2030. Inflation is horrible for us but is helping AAG. Parker actually said AAG has too much liquidity.

UAL just added 40 billion debt with their purchase and DAL buying used planes is just delaying the inevitable.
I sort of agree. AA needed the debt to refresh their fleet. They did so when it made sense. United just got insanely luckily with this order because I’m sure they’re getting a hell of a discount. Delta should have followed UA, but they are going with used airplanes which will ultimately lead them to buy newer planes when prices rebound. However, the current debt load at AA even with our liquidity is something to be incredibly concerned about. Another Covid2.0 and this ship is sunk. Cheap flights got people into the door, but our awful customer service is kicking the higher paying pax out the door in waves. Those are the ones we need to survive.
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Old 08-15-2021 | 10:30 AM
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Aag will just go after more spirit paxs. As it is aa flights resemble spirit flights in the cabin.
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Old 08-20-2021 | 05:43 AM
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Originally Posted by buddies8
Aag will just go after more spirit paxs. As it is aa flights resemble spirit flights in the cabin.
tbh our miami pax are worse than the average spirit pax anywhere else.
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Old 10-01-2021 | 07:32 PM
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So the former LGA chief pilot who decided to bid over the the 175 earlier this year appears to have had his seat lock removed but others still have one. I am sure that RN cut a deal
of some sort to allow RF to be released from his seat lock so he can flow on time.
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Old 10-01-2021 | 07:58 PM
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Originally Posted by ClappedOut145
So the former LGA chief pilot who decided to bid over the the 175 earlier this year appears to have had his seat lock removed but others still have one. I am sure that RN cut a deal
of some sort to allow RF to be released from his seat lock so he can flow on time.
We all so that one coming. He’s just a tiny bit late to the party
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Old 10-02-2021 | 10:32 AM
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Daddy Doug is making everyone get the poke. How many of the Facebook warriors will quit their jobs over this? Upward movement courtesy of the anti-vax army.
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