naw, I enjoy my career and life exactly as it is. They couldn’t afford me full time.

then they aren’t adequately delegating tasks as well as they used to, or the committee chairmen aren’t staffing and training their committees fully. The best MEC chairmen were good people managers. Getting enough subject matter experts to delegate things to made it a different job.

With technology the way it is, it shutdowns be much easier to hold regular MEC committee meetings on Zoom to keep them involved and working. The best we had was teleconferencing and it was just starting to have software to let us push out a PowerPoint slideshow. Now the stuff like Adobe connect is amazing. Zoom style video conference window, desktop for papers, powerpoints, videos whatever, chat window, instant message, all on one screen at once. It’s good stuff.

That's exactly what I mean to imply lol

I prefer that over giving things away for a tweak job.

Well stated. For me at least, it's entirely possible that watching management get mad AF would be a bigger value added than what we've gotten over the last couple years.

Yep, they’d certainly do that; and we’d be suing them and holding public press conferences about the mismanagement, incompetence, mistreatment of employees... topped off by refusing to bargain in good faith as required by law.

You’ve got good people there now; but the ones expressing interest in the job thus far shouldn’t be the only options. You have a complete full CBA negotiation in 2024 and making Envoy the best career possible should be the primary goal, not flow. The company will build/fix flow all on their own when/if they can’t get pilots. So, don’t waste negotiating capital fixing their recruitment program.

seriously, start talking with your senior pilots that aren’t planning to leave. Get one that won’t mind 100 hrs pay credit with only 20 Hrs fly back actually requested. You’d be surprised how many would be interested but just don’t know the process to run for the office. It’s actually much easier than being elected a CA or FO rep. There is none of the ALPA nominations, ballots and stuff like that.
I’d encourage the senior CA’s to consider taking on the job. If interested, call the chairman and talk with him. He can’t nominate or vote, but he can walk you through the process. His recommendation will carry a great deal of weight; as it should.

as a senior lifer it might be nice to have some administrative leadership experience on the resume for the post 65 retirement job....

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stop waiting; start recruiting

It's a godawful job. I wouldn't do it. Less pay, 24/7 on call, no 5 week vacation benefits with DTS.

Would that be a good pitch for it?

I started to just ignore your post but I wanted to sincerely thank you for your service. Sounds like you had some close calls there and I appreciate the service to our country.

Yes, I have only a military background but as I said, it's more than many out there have and I have been on the wrong side of tracers coming at me, blanks of course, but the pucker factor is high. I'm actually proud of having the background that I do and feel I can very closely relate to those who have served before.