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Seneca Pilot 02-27-2021 11:11 AM


Originally Posted by THKooj (Post 3200328)
I started to just ignore your post but I wanted to sincerely thank you for your service. Sounds like you had some close calls there and I appreciate the service to our country.

Yes, I have only a military background but as I said, it's more than many out there have and I have been on the wrong side of tracers coming at me, blanks of course, but the pucker factor is high. I'm actually proud of having the background that I do and feel I can very closely relate to those who have served before.


I don't have a problem with you but I do suggest that around any veteran you keep your experiences to yourself. In a room full of teens who play Call of Duty it may carry some sway but in the company of combat veterans it will get you the cold shoulder every time. Not a criticism just friendly advice.

Tomhawker 02-27-2021 11:44 AM


Originally Posted by Seneca Pilot (Post 3200329)
I don't have a problem with you but I do suggest that around any veteran you keep your experiences to yourself. In a room full of teens who play Call of Duty it may carry some sway but in the company of combat veterans it will get you the cold shoulder every time. Not a criticism just friendly advice.

I take a hard line against any attempt at Stolen Valor and virtual/pretend warriors are a problem. Here, I think Kooj mainly went wrong in the wording. Military background connotes real experience, and it shouldn’t be used as a ruse to exaggerate knowledge and insight. As long as people aren’t lying/exaggerating and recognize the difference between pretending and reality, I’m ok with the attempt at camaraderie. I’ve actually been impressed with the technical knowledge of the DCS crowd, but that doesn’t lead me to believe their computer time means they’ve “been there.” He seems to stop short of claiming anything like that, so maybe he could find a better way of pointing his re-enactments rather than referring to a military background.

Cujo665 02-27-2021 12:19 PM


Originally Posted by dera (Post 3200322)
It's a godawful job. I wouldn't do it. Less pay, 24/7 on call, no 5 week vacation benefits with DTS.

Would that be a good pitch for it?


you won’t know until you try. They may be getting 92 hour lines now, but that isn’t always the case. I remember years where 72 was good. If you didn’t bid the conflicts, you didn’t eat. A guaranteed 100 and cherry picking the 20 hrs you’d like isn’t a bad gig.

as a pretty senior FO, you’re in a good position to ask the senior CA’s you’re already flying and familiar with.
There’s also the occasional FO who lives near DFW and never plans to leave Envoy. Too old to flow and start over. They’d be a good grab too.

Excargodog 02-27-2021 01:01 PM


Originally Posted by THKooj (Post 3200328)
...and I have been on the wrong side of tracers coming at me, blanks of course, but the pucker factor is high. I'm actually proud of having the background that I do and feel I can very closely relate to those who have served before.

Explain to me “blank tracers...” :confused:

CptnDave 02-27-2021 01:15 PM


Originally Posted by THKooj (Post 3200328)
I started to just ignore your post but I wanted to sincerely thank you for your service. Sounds like you had some close calls there and I appreciate the service to our country.

Yes, I have only a military background but as I said, it's more than many out there have and I have been on the wrong side of tracers coming at me, blanks of course, but the pucker factor is high. I'm actually proud of having the background that I do and feel I can very closely relate to those who have served before.

Blanks with tracers? Yep he’s delusional.

havick206 02-27-2021 01:19 PM


Originally Posted by Excargodog (Post 3200381)
Explain to me “blank tracers...” :confused:

he’s got them patent pending apparently.

uavking 02-27-2021 01:21 PM


Originally Posted by THKooj (Post 3200328)
Yes, I have only a military background but as I said, it's more than many out there have and I have been on the wrong side of tracers coming at me, blanks of course, but the pucker factor is high. I'm actually proud of having the background that I do and feel I can very closely relate to those who have served before.

Doubling down on the costumed role play, eh?

Look, there's an unspoken, and perfectly justifiable, divide between dudes with a combat patch and those without one in the service. However, even dudes who somehow never deployed since 2001 still went down to MEPS one day and put their hand in the air to volunteer during wartime. Like the others have said, it's probably best not to play up your civilian OPFOR role play because that isn't remotely in the same league.

ClappedOut145 02-27-2021 01:25 PM


Originally Posted by CptnDave (Post 3200386)
Blanks with tracers? Yep he’s delusional.

He clearly had a roman candle fight in his backyard with his uncle Donny and cousin Rico. His PTSD is tied to that.

DocMcFly 02-27-2021 01:57 PM


Originally Posted by ClappedOut145 (Post 3200393)
He clearly had a roman candle fight in his backyard with his uncle Donny and cousin Rico. His PTSD is tied to that.

That’s some no-joke warfare! I had a roman candle blow up in my hand one time as a kid! I got some serious PTSD from that. There’s a reason the directions say to stick it in the ground lol. (I sincerely hope the sarcasm is evident here and yet I will not hold a Roman candle ever again!)

ClappedOut145 02-27-2021 02:20 PM

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