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Old 04-20-2021 | 02:39 PM
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Originally Posted by NoValueAviator
I'm glad I'm not the only one with this take. They definitely wouldn't be promising flow if they weren't seriously concerned. Maybe we can lean into their staffing anxiety and get some cost neutral goodies.
They're probably banking on everyone not really looking at what 300 in the fall and 600 next year really does as far as flow movement (it's not as much as everyone probably thinks) and that everyone will just be hypnotized by ffllloooowwwww.....
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Old 04-20-2021 | 03:03 PM
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Leave it to this pilot group to be upset about the best news we’ve had in over a year...
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Old 04-20-2021 | 03:19 PM
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Thats your opnion
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Old 04-20-2021 | 03:27 PM
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Originally Posted by CptnDave
Leave it to this pilot group to be upset about the best news we’ve had in over a year...
I was actually glad to see guys getting out and going places and not waiting on flow.
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Old 04-20-2021 | 04:07 PM
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ENY is flowing pilots because they have to when AA is hiring. AA is hiring because they need pilots. I’m pretty sure that’s as deep as the conspiracy goes.

This is unequivocally good news. It’s still good for those that are actively trying to go elsewhere, because the guys that will flow in the fall were the ones holding the CA seat you needed for PIC time, the line you wanted, the vacation, the OT, etc. Movement is good for everyone.
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Old 04-20-2021 | 04:13 PM
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Originally Posted by But seriously
ENY is flowing pilots because they have to when AA is hiring. AA is hiring because they need pilots. I’m pretty sure that’s as deep as the conspiracy goes.

This is unequivocally good news. It’s still good for those that are actively trying to go elsewhere, because the guys that will flow in the fall were the ones holding the CA seat you needed for PIC time, the line you wanted, the vacation, the OT, etc. Movement is good for everyone.
And why is AA hiring?

1. Retirements
2. COVID PAX loadfactor recovery
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Old 04-20-2021 | 04:14 PM
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Originally Posted by TransWorld
And why is AA hiring?

1. Retirements
2. COVID PAX loadfactor recovery
Summer numbers are better than even the most optimistic scenarios 3 months ago.
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Old 04-20-2021 | 04:16 PM
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Originally Posted by CptnDave
Leave it to this pilot group to be upset about the best news we’ve had in over a year...
I wonder how many just cost themselves a flow slot by bidding over to the heavy in the last two bids? That would be less than ideal to have just cost yourself $250,000 at the end of your career because you really wanted to fly the big Envoy iron.
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Old 04-20-2021 | 04:23 PM
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Originally Posted by ClappedOut145
I wonder how many just cost themselves a flow slot by bidding over to the heavy in the last two bids? That would be less than ideal to have just cost yourself $250,000 at the end of your career because you really wanted to fly the big Envoy iron.
Didn’t they know this was just a momentary blip in human history?
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Old 04-20-2021 | 04:28 PM
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Originally Posted by CptnDave
Leave it to this pilot group to be upset about the best news we’ve had in over a year...
I was looking at an 8-9 yr. flow before this crap. If flow affects me it'll be because my career failed utterly.
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