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07-10-2022 | 03:15 PM

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Planegeek

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Originally Posted by flightvector

Sorry to clarify I am not prior 121.

I also let him know I was not prior 121. This also could just be what he told me to get in the door and “hurry up and wait” as we say in the navy.

Pretty sure the recruiters are told to tell people one thing and then when you get in there’s the actual onboarding team. I’ve heard from several others who are waiting for spots as well.

07-11-2022 | 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by DocMcFly

There very well might be a hole. If Envoy gets the reputation that they are blowing off all the pre-121 applicants, they’ll stop applying. Then the 121 time applicants dry up because they will at some point. Then Envoy has to start going after pre-121 again. This stuff can’t turn around overnight. There’s the hole.

‘Yup, quite frankly. I don’t think the prior-121 candidate pool is really deep. Most likely shallow (desperate regional guys escaping their properties to chase money or free themselves from a **** operator…..)

07-12-2022 | 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Swakid8

Like Mesa?

07-12-2022 | 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by bonvoyage

Like Mesa?

Mesa, Air Wisconsin, GoJet some off the top of my head.

07-12-2022 | 09:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Swakid8

Mesa, Air Wisconsin, GoJet some off the top of my head.

Add Republic. The place is in total meltdown. 105 lost last month. Morale is extremely toxic. There are already Republic FOs AND Captains who have CJOs at Envoy.

07-12-2022 | 09:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Planegeek

Well I’m a couple months out of getting my cjo and just over 1 month since requesting a class date. As of now classes (for non 121) seem to be suspended indefinitely.

This was the plan. Newly minted 1500 hour pilots will go to the non wholly owned.

07-12-2022 | 10:49 PM

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Originally Posted by DocMcFly

Add Republic. The place is in total meltdown. 105 lost last month. Morale is extremely toxic. There are already Republic FOs AND Captains who have CJOs at Envoy.

Wow. 105? That's absolutely nuts. Good to know. I've been on FMLA for a couple months and can only imagine how terrible it is there now with the announcement of Envoy/PSA/Piedmont pay rates. The company appears to be completely unwilling to pay competitive wages. I've been there for over 4 years and am very much looking forward to a change with Envoy - even if it means commuting.

07-13-2022 | 04:27 AM

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Originally Posted by pangolin

This was the plan. Newly minted 1500 hour pilots will go to the non wholly owned.

Speculation or do you have some inside knowledge?

07-13-2022 | 06:11 AM

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Add Republic. The place is in total meltdown. 105 lost last month. Morale is extremely toxic. There are already Republic FOs AND Captains who have CJOs at Envoy.

Can confirm that attrition is bad. Morale is not toxic, but it’s low for sure. Management is taking their time in negotiations and it’s really ****ing a lot of people off.

If you live in a base and don’t care to move onto a LCC, a WO would be the place to be. Quite a few RPA pilots are looking forward to getting on with the WOs.

07-13-2022 | 07:10 AM

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Originally Posted by DocMcFly

Add Republic. The place is in total meltdown. 105 lost last month. Morale is extremely toxic. There are already Republic FOs AND Captains who have CJOs at Envoy.

total meltdown here at YX