Originally Posted by CFIatKFXE (Post 1794236)

With the new contract ,
Does anyone know what kind of reserve time, flow time we are looking at for new hires say in summer 2015? As well as possible bases and planes? (Not that I'm picky but would be nice to have an idea since I don't know how the new contract is going to affect everything)
Is there a lot of commuters at envoy with a crashpad or are you required to move to your base and can't bid on a different base?
Thanks in advance



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Originally Posted by diva (Post 1794629)

Depending on what base you get so will reserve time. Let's say it's been about 2-3 years to hold a line. That's cause we haven't had much movement for the past 3 years. Now with new contract, new planes and new flow through we'll have a better movement. We'll have a better idea once we start getting the planes rolling inn. I would say you could get the CRJ / Embraer and pretty much any base as a new hire.

Originally Posted by Da40Pilot (Post 1794637)

2-3 years on reserve???

Originally Posted by Ar Pilot (Post 1794675)

Actually it's 3+. I don't know a single person under 3 years off rsv.

Originally Posted by CFIatKFXE (Post 1794646)

Ouch 2-3 years?! I've talked to a recruiter last year and he said it's about a year on average. 2-3 seems way too long to stay on call basically. With the new contract, if 2-3 years is true, then I don't see it being reduced significantly at all??


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Originally Posted by tall guy (Post 1794700)

I'm enrolling in a pipeline program and I probably won't make it to envoy until the fall (ATP requirements). Will Envoy still be booming or will I miss out???? I'm new so don't hit me too hard. I'm on the outside looking in for now. But when I join the party I want DFW.

Originally Posted by Da40Pilot (Post 1794705)

I would look into regionals that will give you a line in 2-3 months and where you can start bidding for more hours and make a bit extra $$. There's tons of those out there with similar if not better contracts.

Originally Posted by CFIatKFXE (Post 1794707)

Which airlines give you such a short reserve time?


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Originally Posted by tunes (Post 1794733)

Compass is a month or less in lax.

Originally Posted by JohnnyDingus (Post 1794749)

PSA has no reserve at the moment at the TYS base. Other bases are just a couple months.

Originally Posted by PilotJ3 (Post 1794774)

Too expensive to live in LAX







TYS, unless you live in a major hub, that commute is a double leg.

Originally Posted by CFIatKFXE (Post 1794778)

Does anyone knowing Skywest has a long reserve in most of their bases?

Originally Posted by PilotJ3 (Post 1794793)

I didn't know that. But nobody want to go to Skywest, envoy, Xjet or a place with a long upgrade. You know, because being the CA quicker is the best path to a major (sarcasm).



At envoy if you're on RSV and don't proffer or call to verify your schedule, they call you at 12:00am and give you a 10am reserve avail period, which is basically a long call.

Originally Posted by PilotJ3 (Post 1794793)

...... But nobody want to go to Skywest, envoy, Xjet or a place with a long upgrade. You know, because being the CA quicker is the best path to a major (sarcasm).

Originally Posted by CFIatKFXE (Post 1794707)

Which airlines give you such a short reserve time?


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Originally Posted by Pilottim79 (Post 1794834)

I can tell you when our planes start arriving next month TSA will basically have people going straight to line holder from class. We have a pretty dang good contract and a management that is actually friendly. I really don't know why more are jumping on as their seniority will be top half of the company within 2 years.

Originally Posted by skyxbomb (Post 1794845)

Yup they'll just start another regional to undercut you and stagnate you and furlough you. But they're great!

Originally Posted by skyxbomb (Post 1794845)

Yup they'll just start another regional to undercut you and stagnate you and furlough you. But they're great!

Originally Posted by DaCowboys (Post 1794928)

How long is envoys new contract valid for and for how many planes?
Thanks!

Originally Posted by tall guy (Post 1794700)

I'm enrolling in a pipeline program and I probably won't make it to envoy until the fall (ATP requirements). Will Envoy still be booming or will I miss out???? I'm new so don't hit me too hard. I'm on the outside looking in for now. But when I join the party I want DFW.

Originally Posted by DaCowboys (Post 1795127)

Thanks!!! what about the 45's they where just omitted from the ta

Originally Posted by diva (Post 1795305)

We will soon get better reserve rules where you start late on your first day coming in and finish early on your last day. This will specially benefit anyone who commutes to/from work. There will also be hard long call lines where you can practically sit on call from home and you'll get 12+ hours to make it inn for work. That's pretty awesome you asking me.

Originally Posted by Cujo665 (Post 1795442)

2 years longer than the one it replaced. Refleeted and real flow for all our pilots, including new hires.
We've already sent just under 500 of our pilots to AA in the past few years.
That's roughly 1/4 of our active list.

Originally Posted by Cujo665 (Post 1795444)

They are working on something similar to those ideas.

Originally Posted by diva (Post 1795305)

We will soon get better reserve rules where you start late on your first day coming in and finish early on your last day. This will specially benefit anyone who commutes to/from work. There will also be hard long call lines where you can practically sit on call from home and you'll get 12+ hours to make it inn for work. That's pretty awesome you asking me.

Originally Posted by eaglefly (Post 1795506)

These all assume adequate staffing. If Envoy continues to be in a short-staffed keystone cop mode, all the contract provisions in the world won't matter. Talked to a pilot I used to fly with back in the day (now a junior captain) and he said the place is an absolute disaster and the contract has practically been tossed out the window in regards to staffing.

This all sounds like a pipe dream to me.

Originally Posted by eaglefly (Post 1795506)

These all assume adequate staffing. If Envoy continues to be in a short-staffed keystone cop mode, all the contract provisions in the world won't matter. Talked to a pilot I used to fly with back in the day (now a junior captain) and he said the place is an absolute disaster and the contract has practically been tossed out the window in regards to staffing.

This all sounds like a pipe dream to me.