Envoy to get 100% flow to AA.
#511
#512
Are you so far gone that you have started to believe that these management teams do anything out of the goodness of their hearts? There is a direct underlying reason that your company has resorted to implementing these commuter policy changes and it is nothing to be proud of. Instead of doing your management's bidding and recruiting, you should be denouncing them for the actions that brought about the base closures that necessitated these changes in the first place.
#513
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Are you so far gone that you have started to believe that these management teams do anything out of the goodness of their hearts? There is a direct underlying reason that your company has resorted to implementing these commuter policy changes and it is nothing to be proud of. Instead of doing your management's bidding and recruiting, you should be denouncing them for the actions that brought about the base closures that necessitated these changes in the first place.
#514
The ONLY person who mentioned first RAH aircraft going to Envoy was RJ Pilot, a person whose only mission to to troll and spread animosity under a sarcastic guise of "good luck." However, as I admitted to him - that was a flawless victory. He knew that by being the first to say "Envoy is salivating at RAH's jets" that would immediately create animosity between the two groups even if it wasn't true. Simply trying to counter his argument brings more attention with phrases like I started this paragraph with. That in turn just fuels further discussion and defense of said topic. As predicted, within just a few posts of his "Salivating" comment, we were already to the "our routes vs their routes vs mainline."
While it would be prudent to say no one at Envoy is "salivating" at the potential downfall of RAH, at this point the damage is done. While I admitted RJ Pilot has indeed won with his comment, I do know there is no way to reverse it. I'll concede he is a masterful troll and knows what he is doing. He is definitely no GV pilot (does anyone believe that?), and most likely not an Envoy pilot anymore (fired a few years ago) but really a masterful troll.
It's been fun buddy. gg.
While it would be prudent to say no one at Envoy is "salivating" at the potential downfall of RAH, at this point the damage is done. While I admitted RJ Pilot has indeed won with his comment, I do know there is no way to reverse it. I'll concede he is a masterful troll and knows what he is doing. He is definitely no GV pilot (does anyone believe that?), and most likely not an Envoy pilot anymore (fired a few years ago) but really a masterful troll.
It's been fun buddy. gg.
#515
Are you so far gone that you have started to believe that these management teams do anything out of the goodness of their hearts? There is a direct underlying reason that your company has resorted to implementing these commuter policy changes and it is nothing to be proud of. Instead of doing your management's bidding and recruiting, you should be denouncing them for the actions that brought about the base closures that necessitated these changes in the first place.
Making everybody "feel good" by pointing out how stupid they may have been gets us what?
#516
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I haven't seen anybody at Envoy badmouthing RAH pilots. That being said, just over 3 years ago Envoy management promised us 175's if we voted yes. Well, we voted yes and a few weeks later RAH was awarded the 175's. I know there's a significant number of Envoy pilots who still see the RAH 175's and think Envoy should be flying them.
#517
I haven't seen anybody at Envoy badmouthing RAH pilots. That being said, just over 3 years ago Envoy management promised us 175's if we voted yes. Well, we voted yes and a few weeks later RAH was awarded the 175's. I know there's a significant number of Envoy pilots who still see the RAH 175's and think Envoy should be flying them.
Well, they shouldn't feel that way. You're timeline is a bit off. We were never in negotiation for those jets. AMR's first B-scale offer was the summer of 2013. The Ejets had already been awarded to RAH by Tom Horton during the bankrupcty.
Would they have had come here if Horton had not sent them to RAH during the BK? Probably yes; but you can't hold the RAH guys to blame for what our jackass management did during bankrucptcy.
#518
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I haven't seen anybody at Envoy badmouthing RAH pilots. That being said, just over 3 years ago Envoy management promised us 175's if we voted yes. Well, we voted yes and a few weeks later RAH was awarded the 175's. I know there's a significant number of Envoy pilots who still see the RAH 175's and think Envoy should be flying them.
AAG came in and squashed that idea completely and sent Mr. Spinoff himself packing: Dan Garton. Ironically, where did Garton land? Republic. Of all places.
Despite the growing pains we endured shortly after the merger, it should be obvious by now that we are much better off under AAG than we would have been under AMR.
And I hate, absolutely despise Republic management. Bryan Bedford in particular and I make no secret of how I feel. HOWEVER, that is in no way a reflection on how I feel about Republic pilots. I respect the pilots and hate that they have to work under such a sleezy crook as Bedford.
#519
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Well, they shouldn't feel that way. You're timeline is a bit off. We were never in negotiation for those jets. AMR's first B-scale offer was the summer of 2013. The Ejets had already been awarded to RAH by Tom Horton during the bankrupcty.
Would they have had come here if Horton had not sent them to RAH during the BK? Probably yes; but you can't hold the RAH guys to blame for what our jackass management did during bankrucptcy.
Would they have had come here if Horton had not sent them to RAH during the BK? Probably yes; but you can't hold the RAH guys to blame for what our jackass management did during bankrucptcy.
The October 2012 contract with AMR was the one that had "furlough protection" in lieu of an actual fleet plan. But it was more than suggested that we would be getting the E175s with that new contract to begin replacing our 145s. Then 3 months later AMR strikes a deal with Republic for those same aircraft. Slap in the face and knife in the back.
#520
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From: GV Captain
The ONLY person who mentioned first RAH aircraft going to Envoy was RJ Pilot, a person whose only mission to to troll and spread animosity under a sarcastic guise of "good luck." However, as I admitted to him - that was a flawless victory. He knew that by being the first to say "Envoy is salivating at RAH's jets" that would immediately create animosity between the two groups even if it wasn't true. Simply trying to counter his argument brings more attention with phrases like I started this paragraph with. That in turn just fuels further discussion and defense of said topic. As predicted, within just a few posts of his "Salivating" comment, we were already to the "our routes vs their routes vs mainline."
While it would be prudent to say no one at Envoy is "salivating" at the potential downfall of RAH, at this point the damage is done. While I admitted RJ Pilot has indeed won with his comment, I do know there is no way to reverse it. I'll concede he is a masterful troll and knows what he is doing. He is definitely no GV pilot (does anyone believe that?), and most likely not an Envoy pilot anymore (fired a few years ago) but really a masterful troll.
It's been fun buddy. gg.
While it would be prudent to say no one at Envoy is "salivating" at the potential downfall of RAH, at this point the damage is done. While I admitted RJ Pilot has indeed won with his comment, I do know there is no way to reverse it. I'll concede he is a masterful troll and knows what he is doing. He is definitely no GV pilot (does anyone believe that?), and most likely not an Envoy pilot anymore (fired a few years ago) but really a masterful troll.
It's been fun buddy. gg.
BS. You guys are waiting on the outcome of their TA since it will be "sweet" to get those 175's in MIA since it is "your" flying.
Ask the Cuj why the delay on the MIA satellite base is.
Good Luck!
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