Thanks. Now that you mention the name, it sounds very familiar. I need it for an employment history, but couldn't find any files from back then.

 

The guy is trolling. Why don't you just sit back, relax and wait patiently? AAG knows what they are doing. As proven with USAir, they do what they say they are going to do.

The math and numbers that RW has put out have been run over and over by people way more competent that I, and trust me, they are good. Charlie Bucket will not be more than a month or two behind if that. I would still expect a 2.5 year upgrade for those hired today and a flow in 6 years or less. With the math that's been run and put out to ALPA and the pilot group, it's more or less a fact.

Add in the best work rules in the regional industry, it should make your time here go by in a breeze.

 

Well that was just about the biggest load of crap I've ever read. We have some of the worst work rules in the industry and even then our contract isn't followed. The flow only works when management wants it to and right now they've made it clear that they intend to only send the bare minimum, even in our severely overstaffed situation.

 

You have the worst work rules of the 3 AAG wholly owned regionals, I've read all 3 contracts. Not even close to the best, that award goes to LXJT or AWAC. Do recruiters get extra $ for posting bs on here?

 

Ohhhh, eaglefly! Whatcha think??

 

LOL, sure. Whatever you say, ric.

 

Obviously for some, fantasy is still alive and kicking. Most of the moderates aren't buying that manure anymore and even a few hard-core Kool-Aid guzzlers are starting to see the light or lack of it.

I did chuckle reading it though.

 

I'm just trying to help answer the new hires question on here a few pages back. He was concerned about the viability of the 2 1/2 year upgrade and 6 year flow.

I'm just trying to allay those concerns. For some detractors, Envoy will never be good enough. That is until they are sitting in the right seat of some contractor regional as they see their Envoy buddies moving over to AA one after the other.

It's been beat to death here but the math and projections put out by the company actually work. Do you think they would actually advertise a 2 1/2 year upgrade and 6 year flow to AA if it weren't actually the case.

It's also my understanding that the lack of new hires is simply a case of many not making it through the interview. It's an AA interview after all as it will be your last interview before you retire. Obviously, the new hire poster a few pages back is AA material so he need not worry.

I would say to the new hire. Big things are happening here and it's moving fast. Be glad that you got on when you did as your ticket to an AA jet in under 6 years has already been punched.

 

You sound about as clueless and out of touch with reality as when Ric told our MEC that he thinks there is nothing wrong with the current state of the company.

I was cautiously optimistic the company would follow the flow without violating it as it is in both parties interest to do so, however I was unfortunately mistaken. If they won't follow it now, then why on earth would they follow it when we go from over staffed to under staffed (or dare I say "properly" staffed)? Riddle me that!

 

I am in complete agreement. When I stated this several months back, I was flamed and told that I didn't know anything. Several on here were more concerned with my identity than the message I was putting out. They believed I was just spreading flamebait.

Well, it looks like what I saw the company doing has actually happened and the hard core kool aid guzzlers haven't said much here lately.

I'm sorry for the Envoy guys. I was just trying to say what I believed was going to happen when I was posting this previously. Fortunately, I've been able to move on. In my last days at ENY now.