Rick or whoever you are...

I quit eagle because most of the management team sucks. Not the CPO always, but Rick Wilson has destroyed the airline.

I could write a book about all the shameful things at envoy!

Now, the latest... ILLEGAL PILOT PUSHING TO FLY un-airworthy airplanes.

It keeps getting worse, Rick.

You should quit... The airline would improve in five minutes. And take Jane Easton with you.

 

Haha wow. I darn near spit out my teeth!

So Envoy management is now so concerned about what goes down on social media that they have tricky Dic running interference. Good stuff.

As someone who has been here likely even longer than you, and has flown the line the majority of that time, let me echo the sentiment of the other people concerned for others and not just keeping their well nourished butts in a nice cushy office job away from the line:
- Things are worse here at Envoy/Eagle than they have ever been.
- The schedules are the worst they have ever been, times ten! While other regionals are enjoying 16-17+ day off schedules, a senior guy like myself is getting 13-14. A middle of the ground CA or FO is getting a max of 11-12. This is absolutely ridiculous. I know you hope to pull the wool over a prospective new hires head with he glamour and glitz of flow, but this so the dirty truth.
- FOs and Junior CAs have been sitting reserve for YEARS. Other regionals are upgrading their FOs to CA in less time than our guys sit reserve.
- The flow didn't work before. Now management lackeys, like yourself, claim that a new hire will upgrade in 2.4 years and flow in 6. I invite anyone to check out Charliebucket.org to see the truth behind that giant lie.

I'd love to see this envoy grow. As a senior guy, that would be best for ME. Unlike some sniveling little desk jockey trying to lie to the world to save his own butt, I have compassion and empathy. The fact you don't is the glaringly worst reason to come to envoy: management could care less about ANYTHING but their own hineys.

There are far better options than envoy right now.

For our current FOs thinking about what you call a "lateral move" to Spirit, Frontier, JetBlue, Alaska, Southwest......DO IT. This numbskull management guy just showed you his hand by calling it a "lateral move". No one on their right mind would consider a move from a regional to a major a lateral move. Go get time in a 73 or Bus. Make more 2nd year than as a new Captain at a hole like envoy. I'll guarantee you make a legacy faster than the smoke and mirrors flow through envoy is offering too.

 

It's probably not envoy management here trying to turn hearts and minds. Most likely another out of touch Union guy that hasn't flown ( besides a desk) in 3 years

 

I don't know anyone currently in our union that has been in a desk job for three years. Not our local union anyway. There is that scumbag at national.
Is that who you mean?

 

There's a reason why this "management" guy doesn't have the ability to get you guys any actual numbers and can only express feelings. Sam has been saying similar things for many months. If they like us we will do better in the end.

 

Our MEC members all fly regularly. Same with the negotiating committee. I recently flew with the Sec/Treas. who was doing fly back. Basically flying instead of staying at home and crediting his pay to our budget. He was not out of touch as he was instrumental in the envoy pay sheet that came from our well documented issues with paycomp. Funderburk is the flow guy.....definitely not out of touch as we always are fighting a battle on that front it seems. Sam is on top of the rest and I wouldn't put him in the out of touch category.

 

Listen bubba I've never been wrong or misinformed before. Has Sam been flying recently?

 

Now, if there was some MEC level subversion going on painting how out of touch Mgmt. is with their line pilots I could see that. It wouldn't be because the MEC is out of touch. It would be an effective strategic move to show management and prospective new hire pilots the level of frustration with the current path management has taken us down.

 

Kenji must've put the word out that either we get more new hires at any cost (including one's integrity) or there'll be some changes. Of course, Doug and Jerry didn't put any money up to make it happen...

 

Awesome all new hires stay away till Dic and Pedro are gone. From there we'll take the new guys word for what it is, till he lies also. Seriously though, stay the hell away from this place.