Not 750 as stated by cr700. Metering is still in play, and the effect that will have on the total transferred remains to be seen.

I have no clue how they're going to make this work, especially without the needed influx of new hires.

Looking forward to the HI6. Provided it doesn't get pushed back or reduced due to the inability to attract the needed new hires.

I wonder if that's for Charlie Bucket's today... Or last Fall's newhires's today... Or is that today's newhire? Who will actually make the target?

That sounds great. Any caveats? Do we need to give something up? How will we staff it with all the departing flows?

Ok...good luck. I'd help anyone who really wants a job here. I'd caution handing your real name to anyone asking you on this forum, especially if you're critical of management publicly. Obviously management is here on this forum and it would be a convenient way to get your name if they framed it as a way for you get a referral bonus. If you want to get help to get on more quickly just post it publicly in an ENY thread, I can guarantee someone will offer to help and someone will PM you and still be able to maintain anonymity.

Thanks for taking the time to paste it here. My questions weren't directed at you.

Anyone else reading this stuff please make sure to note that many of these projections are for next year. Our current status is currently projected to miss all hiring and flow goals presented last year for 2016 as far as has been calculated here and by our union. We had similar grandiose projections for hiring and flow that currently appear to be on track to miss by a long shot - especially new hires. Many goals presented are likely contingent on achieving the required new bodies. Will they meet those goals?

 

PSA, Envoy, and Piedmont are all having a hard time filling classes now. The only thing that will turn the situation around for the wholly owned regionals at this point is money. And I'm reluctant to believe that Doug and AAG are going to start shelling out the money that will be needed for us all to staff. Maybe they plan on upping the bonus a bit and then increasing the flow? I don't know, but I do know that it is a pilot's market right now and money talks.

 

You're numbers are way off. We will send 120 by April. AA recruitment/HR is then predicting zero new hires thus zero flows for May, June and July as they work through recalls. Which leaves Aug-Dec for new hires and flows(5 months). You say 375 flows this year? After flowing 120 by April that leaves 255 flows in the remaining 5 months of 2016. Does 50 flows a month Aug-Dec sound reasonable to you? We will be lucky to flow 240 in 2016. Your numbers are wildly optimistic for this year.

 

Does anybody know how many new hires there are every month in the other regional airlines?

Envoy is saying they are hiring pretty much the same number as the other regionals.. I don't believe that, that's why I'm asking.

Other question: Would there be a reason for AAG to destroy Envoy? (Too expensive?)

 

Most regionals have had fluctuating hiring numbers over the past year. Many go in and out of double digits. Envoy is one of them.

Destroy envoy? No. They were worried about that before the last TA, but they signed it because "they were too expensive" at the time. So apparently that's no longer the case.

 

Skywest had 64 in a class recently, Mesa's last class had 33, I think CommutAirs last class had over 20. Envoys last class had 6, PSAs had 3. Envoy is safe for now, thanks to the 175s we are getting and because we took it up the a$$ to give Parker and company what they wanted the last go around. Had we said no the last time we would have not gotten the 175 and been shut down.

 

I'm glad I voted YES, got my well deserved "bribe money" and quit! Best decision I've made.

Good Luck!

 

I think someone in the PDT thread said they had 5 in their last class...

 

The WOs are now at the bottom pay of the industry, followed closely by Mesa..

XJT is gonna announce some kind of deal (Flow probably) with United, the WOs will have nothing special to attract new hire anymore.

 

My time at comair says yes. The same is happening here. I didn't think that until the last couple of months. But now I believe we are headed the comair way.