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Old 02-26-2016, 04:45 PM
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Originally Posted by FlameNSky View Post
Either way, they are both trolls with clear agendas. They and their comments should immediately be dismissed by everyone. Any interaction with them should be for entertainment purposes only.
Envoy pilots. After AA, the most arrogant on the planet. What a d****e statement.
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Old 02-26-2016, 04:50 PM
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....and yet you cluelessly convinced yourself of it anyway.

Ah, but my plot twist was sarcasm...but is this an admission by you that my joke was not a fiction?
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Old 02-26-2016, 04:56 PM
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Well, I read that blast from the MEC and DFW reps and the "cautious optimism" phrase is one used umpteen times before only to.....as some say, result in being "underwhelmed". I have heard a rumor of another order of E-175's for Envoy (actually 40 again), so perhaps there might be something good this time. It would make sense as Envoy is slated to be essentially an E-jet airline. I wouldn't necessarily be growth, per se though. More importantly, should that occur it WOULD have the potential to improve schedules as it would bring back more mid-day flying.

But, that was before the RAH BK and although if true, I don't think that would alter another batch of E-jets for Envoy, but now Parker & Co. are no doubt mulling over their options regarding RAH and there are several potential options which may or may not add a new equation to AA feed.
More 175s would probably not be growth airplanes. The first batch of 175s are through summer 2017. By then, the first 20 145s should be transferred to PDT. A new 175 order would probably go hand in hand with an equal further transfer of 145s to PDT. It would probably help recruitment since it's something other than bad news. Net fleet count would probably remain the same. This helps to bring the net fleet count over at PDT up and continues to make all 3 WOd carriers closer to the same size and brings more flying under AAG, but I digress...

As for RAH, Parker and Co knew this was coming since they had to have been in negotiations since the RAH contract got signed to get more money from AAG.

Anytime a "big announcement" has been announced, yes, they are always underwhelming.
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Old 02-26-2016, 04:57 PM
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Heard from some people in training that Ric came in for some Q and A and people questioned him pretty hard. When one asked, "do you really think it will be 2.5/6?" He responded, "Did I say 2.5? I think I said 3."

Now that's just too funny. I sincerely hope that's not really what happened, but if it did I wouldn't know what to think. It would imply he's too stupid to realize it's in writing in multiple messages, some personally from him. It would also imply he thinks us stupid enough to be ok with him saying something like that. If, of course.

6? I think I said 10.
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Old 02-26-2016, 04:58 PM
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Ah, but my plot twist was sarcasm...but is this an admission by you that my joke was not a fiction?
No, it was an acknowledgment you see what you want to see. That's been the case regarding me from the beginning. I only have one identity here and don't waste time playing silly games with alter-ego's.
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Old 02-26-2016, 05:01 PM
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More 175s would probably not be growth airplanes. The first batch of 175s are through summer 2017. By then, the first 20 145s should be transferred to PDT. A new 175 order would probably go hand in hand with an equal further transfer of 145s to PDT. It would probably help recruitment since it's something other than bad news. Net fleet count would probably remain the same. This helps to bring the net fleet count over at PDT up and continues to make all 3 WOd carriers closer to the same size and brings more flying under AAG, but I digress...

As for RAH, Parker and Co knew this was coming since they had to have been in negotiations since the RAH contract got signed to get more money from AAG.

Anytime a "big announcement" has been announced, yes, they are always underwhelming.
If they announce more E-jets for you, I'd give that a thumb's up. It doesn't change the attitude and abuses inflicted upon Envoy pilots though, but it certainly wouldn't be bad news.
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Old 02-26-2016, 05:07 PM
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In hand, we've got all sorts of problems, most glaringly the contract violations, schedules, ridiculous reserve everything, and a slow-through to AA.

And they want us to be excited about aircraft due to arrive over the span of years?

Might be nice from a potential ENY recruit's viewpoint, but for those of us still here with the specter of continued shrinking still being held over our heads it isn't a very exciting possibility considering everything we have on our plates now. The present is too demoralizing to get happy about something that might happen.
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Old 02-26-2016, 06:08 PM
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Envoy pilots. After AA, the most arrogant on the planet. What a d****e statement.
All I have to say, is YOU are an arrogant, clueless moron for saying something so stupid. But, go ahead and believe that - even if it's an overly broad (and idiotic) opinion.

Putz.

Jeez...
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Old 02-26-2016, 06:22 PM
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Originally Posted by ag386 View Post
Envoy pilots. After AA, the most arrogant on the planet. What a d****e statement.
Awe, buddy. Did I make you feel excluded? I'm sorry. Hey everybody, please don't pay any attention to ag386 either, he is also just a troll. You were hired at envoy in 2013, yes? Or was it 2011? No that's right, you are an PDT pilot. I really can't keep all your lies straight. I am sure neither can you.

Envoy pilots may or may not be arrogant D bags but here you are, not even an envoy pilot choosing to spend your free time with us. We may be d bags, but what does that say about you? Sad, my friend, sad.
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Old 02-26-2016, 07:35 PM
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Originally Posted by dsmith3631 View Post
Looking for an Envoy, former Eagle, pilot named Worth, J. Probably a CA now, or very senior FO. Please PM me an email or phone if able. We were childhood friends, but lost touch.
If it's John Worth, from CMH, He just flowed to AA. Probably in class as we speak. Great guy. If that's him, he's on FB, you can find him there. Or if you're not in FB, PM me your info, and I'll pass it along.
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