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#241
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I'm not sure who this guy is (although I kinda think it's eaglefly just arguing with himself!) but he's the only one on here saying that 2.5 yr upgrade and 6 year flow is fact. It's a projection. That being said, as much as we all love to hate AAG and not believe what they say, this projection is well on it's way to reality.
So for all you potential new-hires considering PSA with the possible chance you may make it to AA, do your homework. If you want to go to DAL or UAL, do your homework. Those who are getting calls at the other big 2 are well more qualified then PSA will ever get you in the next 6 years (plus they don't have that giant blackmark on their resume that says "PSA.") If you want a future at a LCC, knock yourself out.
Personally? I'm content hanging around here for a little bit and then spending the next 30+ years at the largest airline in the world.
So for all you potential new-hires considering PSA with the possible chance you may make it to AA, do your homework. If you want to go to DAL or UAL, do your homework. Those who are getting calls at the other big 2 are well more qualified then PSA will ever get you in the next 6 years (plus they don't have that giant blackmark on their resume that says "PSA.") If you want a future at a LCC, knock yourself out.
Personally? I'm content hanging around here for a little bit and then spending the next 30+ years at the largest airline in the world.
#242
Gets Weekends Off
Joined: Dec 2005
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It's funny you think being at PSA is a black mark. You do realize that no one cares outside of you and a few others. You act like envoy is a higher tier pilot group. If you are so much better why are you still there? Why aren't delta and united beating down your door to get an envoy pilot on their books? my guess would be PSA is just a thing to be mad at for your dream of being a pilot not living up to all you thought it would be. Let me guess you saw Top Gun and decided to be a pilot. You probably went to Riddle because they fed you that they made the best pilots. You get to the regionals after that and wonder why there are all these other guys that went to small FBOs and don't have $200,000 in debt are in the same class as you. What ever, you're the best at the best regional. You are living the dream. I mean your regional has a similar name as American. You got in at a bad time so ya you have been sitting reserve as an FO for a long time but so is every one else so who cares. Fast foward and you're still an FO after 5-7 years. Once again it's just the way it is there is no hiring and so no one is moving but you're at American Eagle and when the pilot crisis hits every major will want you. Now today you're probably still an FO or just became a CA waiting on your number to be called at American because no other place has called you and that is still a few years away. Let me guess I'm pretty spot on am I right? That sucks that the industry was the way it was and its been rough for so many pilots but let me tell you this whole blaming your bad situation on PSA won't change how your career has gone. You need to except you are not special you are not better than any one else. If any thing your holding yourself back by blaming others for your unfortunate career. Get over yourself buddy you're just another regional pilot at just another regional. Once you get off your high horse the view will be much better I promise.
#243
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Joined: Jan 2011
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From: DHC-8 100/300
It's funny you think being at PSA is a black mark. You do realize that no one cares outside of you and a few others. You act like envoy is a higher tier pilot group. If you are so much better why are you still there? Why aren't delta and united beating down your door to get an envoy pilot on their books? my guess would be PSA is just a thing to be mad at for your dream of being a pilot not living up to all you thought it would be. Let me guess you saw Top Gun and decided to be a pilot. You probably went to Riddle because they fed you that they made the best pilots. You get to the regionals after that and wonder why there are all these other guys that went to small FBOs and don't have $200,000 in debt are in the same class as you. What ever, you're the best at the best regional. You are living the dream. I mean your regional has a similar name as American. You got in at a bad time so ya you have been sitting reserve as an FO for a long time but so is every one else so who cares. Fast foward and you're still an FO after 5-7 years. Once again it's just the way it is there is no hiring and so no one is moving but you're at American Eagle and when the pilot crisis hits every major will want you. Now today you're probably still an FO or just became a CA waiting on your number to be called at American because no other place has called you and that is still a few years away. Let me guess I'm pretty spot on am I right? That sucks that the industry was the way it was and its been rough for so many pilots but let me tell you this whole blaming your bad situation on PSA won't change how your career has gone. You need to except you are not special you are not better than any one else. If any thing your holding yourself back by blaming others for your unfortunate career. Get over yourself buddy you're just another regional pilot at just another regional. Once you get off your high horse the view will be much better I promise.
I know 5 PSA pilots that have been hired at Delta and United in the last 2 months. Sublimes short man syndrome is raging. Or he's just constantly on the rag. Or both. Just like eagle fly, most just ignore him.
#244
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Joined: Aug 2015
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#246
New Hire
Joined: Nov 2015
Posts: 3
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Sad I can tell you that much about you by your personality. Let me guess you have some excuse why you didn't become a top gun fighter pilot too. Probably thinning hair mid thirties either divorced or not married. A CRJ 700 pilot for envoy too. That would make it worse I'm sure. Tell me when I get the picture of this super pilot wrong.
#247
... Only to vote yes in the end.
If PSA pilots had similar delusions of grandeur they would boast about how they can hold their head up high after repeatedly turning down Parker's 900 and threats in the past. I think the main difference is, that PSA pilots don't have any delusions as to the pragmatic nature of all the wholly owned votes and dealings, while Envoy remains clinging to some righteous dying drum beat. It is difficult to realize that you are no better than anyone else now that you are in the yard with everyone else and outside of the old AMR shelter. Granted, if your group would have stood it's ground and ultimately voted no, it would have been another story and I would respond differently.
So in a sense, your need to label other's actions as immoral or unjustified are in fact a way for YOU to try and live with yourself and justify your own actions in light of where it got you. I think it's difficult for you to accept that many PSA pilots aren't conforming to your perspective on values and ethics. Notice that PSA pilot's don't actively stir up or troll you guys, not because they are taking the "high road" but because, as Katt Williams expertly pointed out, self esteem is "esteem of your mother-&$@#!#& self'." There is no reason to construct our self-identity based upon your expectations or by judging and berating other people like you guys sometimes do. Just trust and be true to yourself brother. I wish we can bridge this divide between the groups somehow, but while I can sense some rationality on your part even if we disagree on some issues, I fear I will not have a similarly meaningful dialog with Sublime, which is a shame.
#250
I only come over when I see outrageous and unnecessary hatred being aimed toward the PSA pilot group. I have nothing against your group, and hope all three wholly owned aag carriers succeed. It is not personal, and I don't think all Envoy pilots are elitists. I was responding to Sublime, that may have been an error in judgment to begin with.
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