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Old 10-07-2016 | 08:17 AM
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Make that more like 1300 in front of any new hire. There are approximately 300 lifers who will retire from Envoy.


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Old 10-07-2016 | 08:23 AM
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Originally Posted by airlinegypsy
Make that more like 1300 in front of any new hire. There are approximately 300 lifers who will retire from Envoy.


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Old 10-07-2016 | 09:31 AM
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Did I read our insurance email correctly. The part where it says if our spouse has a job, access to another insurance plan, we will get a $100 surcharge on top of what we already pay?
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Old 10-07-2016 | 09:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Icaruss
I'm scheduled for an interview soon. If everything goes ok and receive the pre-offer. How long does it take to receive the final offer? Is it ok to call the recruiter to inquiry about job offer while you wait for the Captain's Review Board?
I did my interview on a Tuesday and got the CJO. The review board met the following Friday morning, and I had approval by noon. So you should know within two weeks. My recruiter told me at 99.5% of applicants pass the board, so if you get a CJO then you are more than likely good to go.
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Old 10-07-2016 | 09:44 AM
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So basically if you apply you have a job.
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Old 10-07-2016 | 09:49 AM
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Originally Posted by RyanP
Unfortunately, your opinion is wrong. This is the airlines and seniority is the only thing that matters. You can spend your time doing whatever you want, but you will pay for it for the rest of your career if you get hired at the back end of a big hiring wave.. And you REALLY dont want to get hired 2-3 years later into this hiring cycle at the majors. That is 2,000-3,000 younger people that will be parked in front of you for the next 3+ decades. Getting the good schedules, weekends off and holidays off you will be stuck working. You think your wife and kids will care if you are a more well rounded person when you are gone every christmas and birthday? This is the reality of this industry.

For example. I had friends hired 800 numbers junior to me in a big hiring spree, only a little more than a year apart in seniority. Our last decade has been incredibly different. I bid whatever I wanted, didnt spend any time on reserve, 17- 18 days off for years. Weekends/holidays off. Upgraded nearly 4 years ahead of them. Made a lot more money while they were broke. They had years and years of reserve, horrible schedules the entire time. Worked weekends and holidays for the better part of a decade, and now they will start over way behind me at AA all over again while AA is also street hiring hundreds and hundreds of people ahead of them as well.
Isn't this hiring wave forecast to peak in 2022 or so based on retirement numbers ? By that point yes, you'll have thousands hired before you, but there are still thousands to be hired.

All I'm suggesting is there is no sense in wigging out over something you don't have control over; nobody knows what the industry will look like in 10-15 years. What you think is a good move could turn out to be a bad one and vice versa. There is plenty of money to be made fortunately, and I still believe attitude is more valuable than luck.
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Old 10-07-2016 | 09:56 AM
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Originally Posted by buddies8
So basically if you apply you have a job.
Yeah that's not what that means..... review board rubber stamps the interview making sure everything is in line.
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Old 10-07-2016 | 10:01 AM
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Originally Posted by buddies8
So basically if you apply you have a job.
Not by any means. I had the least amount of time in my interview (1250). There was one guy from ExpressJet, one guy from Republic, and two 135 guys. The Expressjetguy and the 135 guys along with myself were hired. The Republic guy was a complete douchebag and wasn't offered a job. He showed up late (never verified his travel), didn't wear a suit, just slacks and a red button down shirt, bragged about defacing airplanes at RW, and made inappropriate comments while the recruiters were in the room. Oh, and he bragged about how he quit RW even before he had a job. Needless to say, he didn't get the job. Probably shouldn't have quit before he had a plan B. This was a few months back when they weren't flooded with apps.
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Old 10-07-2016 | 10:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Smutter
Did I read our insurance email correctly. The part where it says if our spouse has a job, access to another insurance plan, we will get a $100 surcharge on top of what we already pay?


That's what it looks like. What a crock!


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Old 10-07-2016 | 10:54 AM
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Originally Posted by buddies8
So basically if you apply you have a job.
Easy path to AA mainline!
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