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Old 11-27-2016 | 04:10 PM
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Originally Posted by armyflyer11
What's the likelihood of Envoy getting those 90 175s?


This isn't my post, it's from Eagle Lounge, but it has a lot of great info that would be beneficial to anyone who wants an overview of AA's RJ fleet.


Based on the narrown body fleet as of EOY16

NB = 787
SRJs = 276 (E40/45, CR2 & CR7 with 65 seats or less)
LRJs = 296 (E75, CR9 & CR7 with 66 seats or more)

Based on a the APA Scope clause, AA can operate an RJ fleet equivalanet to 75% the size of the mainline NB fleet. So based on the EOY16 NB fleet, AA can operate 590 RJs, the EOY estimate is 572. In 2017 we will see CR2 parked and 12 additional E75 and 15+ CR7 deliveries. AA can operate the equivalent to 40% the size of the NB fleet as LRJs, based on the NB fleet at EOY16 this is a cap of 315 LRJs and AA will have 296 by EOY16.

AA is nearly against the limit for total RJs and LRJs, what will happen is that some of the CR7 that are coming online will be configured with 65 seats as not to take away room required for the remainder of the E75 deliveries taking place in the first half of 2017. After all of the CR7 and E75 are in service with those heading to DFW likely being configured at 65 seats, AA will have around 60 CR7 that will be configured as LRJs and if AA desires can be reconfigured in order to deliver the equivalent number of E75/CR9. However, as this happens an E40/45 or CR2 will have to be parked to make room under the total RJ cap.

With regards to flow, AA has projected over 750 new hires for FY17. Currently we are 40 pilots above the 50% threashold and minimum requirement for when AA has hired 1648 pilots (824). If AA is to hire evenly across the first eleven months we would see 68 pilots hired per month, if metered to 30 we would fall below 50% by May. Understanding how airlines normally do hiring, we know that they slow down during summer months and holiday season, with the current hiring estimates we will the 824 agreement finish in the 3rd QT of 2017. Since AA is likely to hire a significant number of pilots in the 1st QT and first part of 2QT, we are seeing a scenario that AA sends more than 30 per month in order to reach the 50% threashold at the end of the 824. So the whole 40 per month discussion isn't because of new hires coming in, yes they are required if the carrier doesn't want to shrink drastically... it isn't because they want to change the culture... it's because the agreement requires that when AA reaches 1648 new hires, 824 of them are from Envoy via the flow. With AA likely hiring 80+ per month over the next 6 months, they have to send more than the metering number in order to achieve the 50% in agreagate.

*I ran these Scope numbers on my phone as I typed, I will review them for 100% accuracy but should be correct and give you an idea of what AA is doing. They are maxing their RJ fleet, parking 50 seat RJs as they take delivery of over 66 seat RJs, as they take 76 seat RJs and achieve the limit they will reconfigure the CR7 to 65 seats as to allowed them to field more 76 seat RJs.

As far as Network, they are having SKW pick most of the large RJ feed in ORDwith their 70 seat CR7, the CR7 ASA is deploying in DFW will be 1:1 replacement for the CR2 on paper and Scope implications however they will allow AA to add 15 seats per frame. As I have illustrated above,AA has the ability to easily adjust the fleet and execute upon ⅔ of the 90 E75 options. There is also a number of CR9 at Mesa that will come off CPA in the near future and these could allow for the remainder options to be exercised. Will the economical environment present itself and AA have the desire to do so is the real question here.

One thing not to forget is that has been seeking to increase the Small RJ scope limit to 70 seats, this not only would allow them to operate all those CR7 and 70 seats with the same Scooe footprint of a 50 seater but will open the door for the MRJ70, and aircraft that at 70 seats fits under the MTOW allowed under SCOPE with a lower operating cost than the CR7. AA is falling behind Delta and United under compensation, they will see to increase it and I presume AA management will want SCOPE in return.




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Old 11-27-2016 | 04:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Shiner
You can bid for it off, try to trade reserve days, and if all else fails, visit with the Chief Pilot about the situation and they can approve a PO (personal off day) or PVD (paid vacation day).

I've had more than a few weddings, funerals, and family emergencies come up over the years and they've always been good handling it. I try to go in and talk to them face to face and obviously don't abuse it.

Say what you want about how management treats the contract here, but the CP's have always been really good at helping when life happens.


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Old 11-28-2016 | 07:39 AM
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Could someone give me the current reserve time for e145 in ORD and DFW and reserve time on e175 in ORD and DFW?

Also, what is the junior base for e145? DFW or ORD?


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Old 11-28-2016 | 08:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Ijustlikeflying
Could someone give me the current reserve time for e145 in ORD and DFW and reserve time on e175 in ORD and DFW?

Also, what is the junior base for e145? DFW or ORD?


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Junior base is highly variable depending on when you enter class and luck. Safe to say NYC is a common 145 base right now. But ORD is possible, and a transfer to DFW is also possible at some point. 145 reserve in ORD is shorter than in DFW right now. Others could speak to specific times, but they are also highly variable depending on your class date. At the moment, DFW folks have a fairly long wait on the 145. That could change rapidly.

The 175 is only in DFW -- there is no 175 ORD base. Reserve is short, a few weeks right now, but that could go back up as hiring is now spread out amongst aircraft, as opposed to full classes of 175 hires.
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Old 11-28-2016 | 08:35 AM
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Originally Posted by 271c
Junior base is highly variable depending on when you enter class and luck. Safe to say NYC is a common 145 base right now. But ORD is possible, and a transfer to DFW is also possible at some point. 145 reserve in ORD is shorter than in DFW right now. Others could speak to specific times, but they are also highly variable depending on your class date. At the moment, DFW folks have a fairly long wait on the 145. That could change rapidly.

The 175 is only in DFW -- there is no 175 ORD base. Reserve is short, a few weeks right now, but that could go back up as hiring is now spread out amongst aircraft, as opposed to full classes of 175 hires.


Great Thanks for the info. I might as well ask about the CRJ as well, what's the reserve time in ORD on that?


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Old 11-28-2016 | 09:34 AM
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Has anyone received any confirmation/travel information from AR for December 5th ATP-CTP?
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Old 11-28-2016 | 10:46 AM
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someone had asked a few pages back but its still sort of unclear, whats the "medical examination" involve?
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Old 11-28-2016 | 10:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Jecain7
someone had asked a few pages back but its still sort of unclear, whats the "medical examination" involve?


It's just a drug test.


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Old 11-28-2016 | 11:06 AM
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Originally Posted by XNAflyer
It's just a drug test.


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lol seriously? stressing over nothing i guess
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Old 11-28-2016 | 11:31 AM
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Originally Posted by criticalaoa
Sorry for so many questions guys I am just trying to make the best decision here. Lets say I get the CRJ in ORD and they get rid of them in 2018. If I get sent to NYC in the 145 will the company pay for me to move into base?


They will pay up to a certain limit. If you are moving a large house worth of items the company will pay for the majority. I think it's up to $3000 worth of moving expense? It has to be a move from within 50 miles of one base to another. Meaning you can't have the company pay for your move from Dallas to Seattle as an example. Also, you can ship personal items through FedEx for a hefty discount as well. One word of advice, when you use movers, don't expect them to be speedy with your move. I've had them hang on to my stuff for weeks. Also I "lost" an Xbox from the company contracted movers. Awesome times.
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