Envoy: Direct Path to American Airlines
#73
Sounds like you are the one needing the tissue. Obviously, envoy's success and the flow scare the **** out of you. Truth be told, if I were in your position, I would be scared too. After AA hires Flowthroughs, then Military Pilots, then those who can check the right boxes, it doesn't leave a whole lot of new hire spots for you. United is well on their way with to filling most of their new hire positions with Commutair, ExpressJet and military pilots as well. Good luck fighting over what's left. Yup, if I were you, I would be scared too.
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Sounds like you are the one needing the tissue. Obviously, envoy's success and the flow scare the **** out of you. Truth be told, if I were in your position, I would be scared too. After AA hires Flowthroughs, then Military Pilots, then those who can check the right boxes, it doesn't leave a whole lot of new hire spots for you. United is well on their way with to filling most of their new hire positions with Commutair, ExpressJet and military pilots as well. Good luck fighting over what's left. Yup, if I were you, I would be scared too.
I'm going to recommend that you be scared ****less if hired in 2007 or after and employed by Envoy. You'll be waiting on that flow for a lonnnngggg time.
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I'm sorry but you don't have a crystal ball and are also someone who clearly lacks good judgement based on your recent career move.
Shouldn't you be studying up on those memory items for Allegiant? I mean engine failures seem to be a pretty common occurrence their
Again, great career!!!! Excuse me while I try and contain my laughter...So you're saying you
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From: Downward-Facing Dog Pose

Frogs slooooowly cooking in a proverbial pot, calling others "scared" to join them.
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Well, to be fair to the haters, there are a few here that are calling 2.5/6 (or 5.5, 5) the real deal, along with hundreds of upgrades and more hundreds of flows. But I can't think of anybody here who actually thinks it's going to happen without overcoming the already beaten to death subject of the hurdles in the way.
But here, one extreme feeds the other; the haters fuel the salesmen who fuel the haters...ad nauseam. But don't let the idea that the rest of us with a reasonably guarded and cynical outlook on ENY's promises get in the way of being called conspirators, salesmen, spineless or spreading negativity about the company and being the reason management's beautiful plans are failing. No matter how skeptical or optimistic we might be.
Just like politics. If you're not a commie on the government teat you must be a bomb dropping neo-con screaming "Drill baby, drill!"
No room for the middle, or reason, anymore. Drowning in the sea of extremist noise.
But here, one extreme feeds the other; the haters fuel the salesmen who fuel the haters...ad nauseam. But don't let the idea that the rest of us with a reasonably guarded and cynical outlook on ENY's promises get in the way of being called conspirators, salesmen, spineless or spreading negativity about the company and being the reason management's beautiful plans are failing. No matter how skeptical or optimistic we might be.
Just like politics. If you're not a commie on the government teat you must be a bomb dropping neo-con screaming "Drill baby, drill!"
No room for the middle, or reason, anymore. Drowning in the sea of extremist noise.
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Another thought about the flow - don't forget about those few hundred super-senior types that tried to inject themselves in the flow recently. Expect several to opt in after the list has been gone through. Remember, they start at the top again after they get to #824 and start the PP group.
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Those who were content with riding out their career living in base in MIA or NY, but then had their base close on them, are the ones most likely to make the decision to go to AA once the 824 are gone. I'd estimate this number at less than 50.
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