Envoy: Direct Path to American Airlines
04-03-2016 | 06:02 PM
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There's a big difference between contractual profit sharing and profit sharing as non-precedent setting largesse.
Another thought about the flow - don't forget about those few hundred super-senior types that tried to inject themselves in the flow recently. Expect several to opt in after the list has been gone through. Remember, they start at the top again after they get to #824 and start the PP group.
Another thought about the flow - don't forget about those few hundred super-senior types that tried to inject themselves in the flow recently. Expect several to opt in after the list has been gone through. Remember, they start at the top again after they get to #824 and start the PP group.
04-03-2016 | 06:54 PM
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Sorry you've had such a bad time dfwguy. I never claimed that this place was rainbows or unicorns, but it's FAR from a horrible place to work. No, it's not like the original American Eagle. Get over it and move on, I have.
Enjoy AA, maybe you will be happy there. Or maybe not. Probably not actually.
Enjoy AA, maybe you will be happy there. Or maybe not. Probably not actually.
04-03-2016 | 07:26 PM
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Envoy isn't the real American Eagle and it sure isn't some happy place like you are trying to make it out to be.
I have to be honest and say this place sucks. Worse than it ever has since the day I was hired.
If you didn't get the picture above, life here is just about awful. The company could fix it but they never have before and they won't this time either.
I have to be honest and say this place sucks. Worse than it ever has since the day I was hired.
If you didn't get the picture above, life here is just about awful. The company could fix it but they never have before and they won't this time either.
Hmmm... another long time listener, first time poster with the same message.
Obviously, Parker's APC mafia enforcers and mgmt shills are willing to strike down even their own who don't tow the company's new hire sales pitch. As sad as it is predictable. Do you guys get paid by the post/thread?
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04-03-2016 | 07:48 PM
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Threaten the jobs of the most vocal union reps, and they drastically change their tune.
Tell your management pilots to become social media salesmen, spinning in just enough half-truths and positive conjecture to blind potential new hires.
And management wonders why no one wants to become an airline pilot anymore.
04-04-2016 | 02:27 AM
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Let's just see how those new hire classes stack up throughout the year and evaluate again. If they get close to their target numbers, then I'll admit I'm flat wrong. I just don't think there are enough even if Envoy got ALL new hires available.
04-04-2016 | 04:48 AM
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I think it is obvious though that if Envoy can't hire the 40 pilots per month needed to support the flow numbers you are projecting (again projecting, let's not forget envoy pilots flowing today are 16 year employees), then the flow falls apart. Do you agree that Envoy pilots cannot all flow to American leaving Envoy with 0 pilots?
04-04-2016 | 10:32 AM
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All those old threads have long been debunked in your absence. The math doesn't add up hence why we are always reliving this topic.
I think it is obvious though that if Envoy can't hire the 40 pilots per month needed to support the flow numbers you are projecting (again projecting, let's not forget envoy pilots flowing today are 16 year employees), then the flow falls apart. Do you agree that Envoy pilots cannot all flow to American leaving Envoy with 0 pilots?
I think it is obvious though that if Envoy can't hire the 40 pilots per month needed to support the flow numbers you are projecting (again projecting, let's not forget envoy pilots flowing today are 16 year employees), then the flow falls apart. Do you agree that Envoy pilots cannot all flow to American leaving Envoy with 0 pilots?
My feeling is that he will totally brush off and not even address the question regarding the need for new hires as do all of those on the Envoy sales team do here. Probably because management has instructed them to do so.
04-04-2016 | 12:55 PM
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Allegiant Pilot, or it is Piedmont, what was your last lie again?
PSA pilot, how is your hiring going?
I am sure glad that I don't spend as much time thinking about your companies as you guys spend thinking about mine.
Allegiant Pilot, or it is Piedmont, what was your last lie again?
I am sure glad that I don't spend as much time thinking about your companies as you guys spend thinking about mine.
04-04-2016 | 01:17 PM
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Not "thinking" about your company per se, sweetheart. Rather, people like you, lying to NEWBs for your own personal gain and career progression, starting thread after thread to lure them into a chithole so you can get out of it.
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