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10-27-2018, 09:49 AM
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Originally Posted by babs
Not sure why you wouldn’t use the vacation and just work it. If you take the vacation and work it you are getting paid vacation plus making a minimum of 150% on top of it (possibly 200% if it’s CC). If you don’t take the vacation you are losing out on that 50%-100% extra. Essentially you are making 200% instead of 250%-300% by not taking it. It makes no sense to just have it paid out when you flow. Hope I explained that well enough.
I’d recommend he does a bit of both a vacation and a little bit of OT to make up the pay hit from DTS (or use sick time to cover those dropped trips), and earn a little extra if using vacation all at once.
Some guys I knew before flow went crazy with OT saying they needed to make up for the pay loss at year 1 at AA. Horsesh*t. Someone hasn’t managed their money properly is the real issue. Budget and financial planning goes a long way without having to work extra. Work smarter not harder as the saying goes.
Vacation resets to year 1 vacation AA, I’d recommend actually taking some real R&R vacation (quality time off to build) with family, friend, or even parents and celebrating the milestone.
10-27-2018, 12:45 PM
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Originally Posted by SilentLurker
I’d recommend he does a bit of both a vacation and a little bit of OT to make up the pay hit from DTS (or use sick time to cover those dropped trips), and earn a little extra if using vacation all at once.
Some guys I knew before flow went crazy with OT saying they needed to make up for the pay loss at year 1 at AA. Horsesh*t. Someone hasn’t managed their money properly is the real issue. Budget and financial planning goes a long way without having to work extra. Work smarter not harder as the saying goes.
Vacation resets to year 1 vacation AA, I’d recommend actually taking some real R&R vacation (quality time off to build) with family, friend, or even parents and celebrating the milestone.
Some guys I knew before flow went crazy with OT saying they needed to make up for the pay loss at year 1 at AA. Horsesh*t. Someone hasn’t managed their money properly is the real issue. Budget and financial planning goes a long way without having to work extra. Work smarter not harder as the saying goes.
Vacation resets to year 1 vacation AA, I’d recommend actually taking some real R&R vacation (quality time off to build) with family, friend, or even parents and celebrating the milestone.
10-27-2018, 04:14 PM
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Originally Posted by babs
I’m not advocating for him/her to work their vacation. I’m saying that if they are going to not use it and work anyway they are leaving money on the table.
10-27-2018, 05:13 PM
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Originally Posted by dera
No-one claimed 5 years. The recruiters said 6-8 years should be realistic. Which it is, given the current numbers.
10-28-2018, 12:12 PM
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Originally Posted by CaptJackSparrow
DTS and use sick pay to cover dropped flying
I wish I had known that years ago, I've had some pretty bad months pay wise (and some pretty great months QOL wise) because of DTS and I'm not exactly short on sick time. I guess it really does pay to read the contract.
Originally Posted by SilentLurker
Some guys I knew before flow went crazy with OT saying they needed to make up for the pay loss at year 1 at AA. Horsesh*t. Someone hasn’t managed their money properly is the real issue. Budget and financial planning goes a long way without having to work extra. Work smarter not harder as the saying goes.
A few years ago it was a different story; Our flows were on 13+ year pay and AA newhire pay was only $70/hour so it was a big hit if you weren't financially prepared.
*Unless you're relying on "soft pay" or picking up a lot of OT at envoy.
10-30-2018, 07:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Captainmarv
I have a interview coming up, can anyone PM a gouge from recent interviews I'd really appreciate it! Thanks
Also, unless you have a personal reason for coming here; don’t.
10-31-2018, 03:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Captainmarv
I have a interview coming up, can anyone PM a gouge from recent interviews I'd really appreciate it! Thanks
If you live in a base we have, life can be OK assuming you are OK with some of the lowest pay in the industry.
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