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12-03-2018 | 07:31 PM
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Honest question. The settlement pushed most protected pilots flow date up a couple months with the guys at the end probably improving their slot by five or six months. With the way AA has started to hire that might mean anywhere from 200-600 numbers in seniority. We've been here long enough to know that the full grievance process could have extended well into 2019, then even longer to get an award for harm caused IF we win that grievance.
Since the grievance only covered the protected pilots and any award for damages could have happened after they all left property what outcome were you hoping for? If we pushed hard for the 50% of all classes or even a meter much larger than 30/month the company would have taken their chances with arbitration and it's still possible we would have lost. Even if we won it's incredibly unlikely APA or AA would be forced to rearrange their master seniority list to reflect the 50% number retroactively. What would you have been happy with?
Since the grievance only covered the protected pilots and any award for damages could have happened after they all left property what outcome were you hoping for? If we pushed hard for the 50% of all classes or even a meter much larger than 30/month the company would have taken their chances with arbitration and it's still possible we would have lost. Even if we won it's incredibly unlikely APA or AA would be forced to rearrange their master seniority list to reflect the 50% number retroactively. What would you have been happy with?
The company saved face, Got their flow to continue with the union and pilots stopping most of their complaints so the company can continue selling it. Plus the union gave the company more to help out their staffing problem etc.
12-03-2018 | 08:18 PM
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I agree with all that you are saying. The company never was going to give us 50%. All I am saying is that the LOA benefits the company more then it does the pilots.
The company saved face, Got their flow to continue with the union and pilots stopping most of their complaints so the company can continue selling it. Plus the union gave the company more to help out their staffing problem etc.
The company saved face, Got their flow to continue with the union and pilots stopping most of their complaints so the company can continue selling it. Plus the union gave the company more to help out their staffing problem etc.
I don't think the company would have played ball to settle the flow though grievance without it but I also don't think they wanted that training headache indefinitely. I don't know how much more they could have extracted before the company walked to arbitration and adapted to the training headache but that's always the second guessing that comes with reaching a settlement instead.
12-04-2018 | 11:48 AM
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Type the RF entry into DECS eg RF 100 VAC
You need to get to the top left corner now. Press HOME on a keyboard or click/tap the top left (iPad).
Press Escape twice to get inside the RF field.
Tab and Shift-Tab to move between fields.
Once everything is filled out, tab the cursor next to "DONE" and press Enter.
You need to get to the top left corner now. Press HOME on a keyboard or click/tap the top left (iPad).
Press Escape twice to get inside the RF field.
Tab and Shift-Tab to move between fields.
Once everything is filled out, tab the cursor next to "DONE" and press Enter.
12-04-2018 | 12:11 PM
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Type the RF entry into DECS eg RF 100 VAC
You need to get to the top left corner now. Press HOME on a keyboard or click/tap the top left (iPad).
Press Escape twice to get inside the RF field.
Tab and Shift-Tab to move between fields.
Once everything is filled out, tab the cursor next to "DONE" and press Enter.
You need to get to the top left corner now. Press HOME on a keyboard or click/tap the top left (iPad).
Press Escape twice to get inside the RF field.
Tab and Shift-Tab to move between fields.
Once everything is filled out, tab the cursor next to "DONE" and press Enter.
If I put my cursor after the "SEND<" and hit enter, it does nothing. Trying to figure out how to actually send it once everything has been filled out. Tried doing it in Mobile FOS, but had the same issue. Nothing is happening when I try to transmit the completed message.
12-04-2018 | 12:43 PM
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This is for the RF 100 GND function. I was able to get everything filled out. The problem is, at the end of the message it says, "SEND<".
If I put my cursor after the "SEND<" and hit enter, it does nothing. Trying to figure out how to actually send it once everything has been filled out. Tried doing it in Mobile FOS, but had the same issue. Nothing is happening when I try to transmit the completed message.
If I put my cursor after the "SEND<" and hit enter, it does nothing. Trying to figure out how to actually send it once everything has been filled out. Tried doing it in Mobile FOS, but had the same issue. Nothing is happening when I try to transmit the completed message.
I gave up my first born last year in order to make it work so your mileage may vary.
12-04-2018 | 01:05 PM
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Did everything listed, but when I tabbed to "SEND<" and hit enter, I got "INVALID ACTION CODE".
There is no "DONE", only "SEND<". Where, exactly, does the cursor need to be placed?
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