Envoy
02-22-2017, 09:42 AM
#1091
Happy at PDT
Joined APC: Jan 2014
Position: EMB-145 CA
Posts: 983
Originally Posted by ORDinary
Yep, really. Just like getting hired off the street anywhere.
02-22-2017, 09:44 AM
#1092
Happy at PDT
Joined APC: Jan 2014
Position: EMB-145 CA
Posts: 983
Originally Posted by Pedro4President
There is a difference with Envoy flows and PDT flows. After the 824 I would expect to see a flow back type program.
If an 824 pilot fails then they can not come back.
If an 824 pilot fails then they can not come back.
02-22-2017, 10:18 AM
#1093
Line Holder
Joined APC: Dec 2016
Posts: 49
If they can't pass training then they shouldn't be able to come back. The training program at Envoy is not easy. If you are able to pass training at envoy for many years and then you all of a sudden can't pass at American then it's your own fault. Part of having a flow program is having the career progression that comes with it. If we let people come back to work right where they left off at the same seniority then that is not going to help the progression for everyone else below them.
02-22-2017, 11:48 AM
#1094
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Mar 2013
Position: 737 FO
Posts: 269
Originally Posted by SullyJR
If they can't pass training then they shouldn't be able to come back. The training program at Envoy is not easy. If you are able to pass training at envoy for many years and then you all of a sudden can't pass at American then it's your own fault. Part of having a flow program is having the career progression that comes with it. If we let people come back to work right where they left off at the same seniority then that is not going to help the progression for everyone else below them.
Perhaps PDT has a flow back because many of their guys never flew anything more advanced than a Dash.
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02-22-2017, 02:05 PM
#1097
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Dec 2016
Posts: 524
Can someone give me an idea regarding a commute from GRR to DFW? With all the ORD downsizing talk, I'm wondering if that's even doable (3 flts a day on Envoy operated 175's I think). I'd imagine ORD-DFW would be a rough commute as well since it'd be hub - hub.
Thanks.
Thanks.
02-22-2017, 02:48 PM
#1098
Line Holder
Joined APC: Aug 2016
Posts: 91
Originally Posted by RabidW0mbat
Can someone give me an idea regarding a commute from GRR to DFW? With all the ORD downsizing talk, I'm wondering if that's even doable (3 flts a day on Envoy operated 175's I think). I'd imagine ORD-DFW would be a rough commute as well since it'd be hub - hub.
Thanks.
Thanks.
02-22-2017, 02:49 PM
#1099
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Aug 2016
Position: Pilot
Posts: 421
Originally Posted by ORDriver
New FM-1 revision out today has brought the CA upgrade time down from 3,000TT to 2,500TT. Should help out a decent amount of FO's.
02-22-2017, 03:56 PM
#1100
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jan 2017
Posts: 546
Originally Posted by Pedro4President
There is a difference with Envoy flows and PDT flows. After the 824 I would expect to see a flow back type program.
If an 824 pilot fails then they can not come back.
If an 824 pilot fails then they can not come back.
Enough Envoy pilots remember or have heard the stories. We won't agree to anything of the sort.
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