Envoy
01-25-2018 | 07:59 AM
#6871
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How is seniority determined within class? Age or last 4 of SSN?
For a non-cadet / no previous 121 hire, what are the chances of getting ORD out of class at age 35. 145 or 175 more likely?
Side question, how's family insurance and cost?
thanks.
For a non-cadet / no previous 121 hire, what are the chances of getting ORD out of class at age 35. 145 or 175 more likely?
Side question, how's family insurance and cost?
thanks.
01-25-2018 | 08:22 AM
#6873
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01-25-2018 | 08:40 AM
#6874
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No interest in extending bonuses that ended today(I think that is a good move)
Nothing else, people want less stby, min day, 1st day reserve fixed, long call
And for the most part the company wants us to have none of that, according to the union
01-25-2018 | 08:49 AM
#6875
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One you wants us to be given 4 hrs per diem before check-in, because law is 8 hrs bottle throttle and the company policy is 12.
No interest in extending bonuses that ended today(I think that is a good move)
Nothing else, people want less stby, min day, 1st day reserve fixed, long call
And for the most part the company wants us to have none of that, according to the union
No interest in extending bonuses that ended today(I think that is a good move)
Nothing else, people want less stby, min day, 1st day reserve fixed, long call
And for the most part the company wants us to have none of that, according to the union
01-25-2018 | 09:56 AM
#6876
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One you wants us to be given 4 hrs per diem before check-in, because law is 8 hrs bottle throttle and the company policy is 12.
No interest in extending bonuses that ended today(I think that is a good move)
Nothing else, people want less stby, min day, 1st day reserve fixed, long call
And for the most part the company wants us to have none of that, according to the union
No interest in extending bonuses that ended today(I think that is a good move)
Nothing else, people want less stby, min day, 1st day reserve fixed, long call
And for the most part the company wants us to have none of that, according to the union
01-25-2018 | 10:33 AM
#6877
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Joined: Mar 2017
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The union is concerned with the company being more restrictive on drinking before flying?
There are only 3 things that the union should be concerned about.
1. Flow- The company is blatantly violating the flow agreement.
2. Reserve Rules. Envoy’s reserve rules are outdated and complete BS! Just ask guys who made the jump from another carrier and they will shed some light on what an actual reserve system is like.
3. Pay raises. Envoy no longer has “industry leading pay” Everyone knows money talks. With the flow at 9 years for new hires, the company must come up with a different selling point other than “The 6 year flow”
It is a pilots’s market now! We as a pilot group need to take advantage of that. Call, email, text your union reps! Get the point across that we are worth more!
01-25-2018 | 10:41 AM
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Are you Fing kidding me?!?
The union is concerned with the company being more restrictive on drinking before flying?
There are only 3 things that the union should be concerned about.
1. Flow- The company is blatantly violating the flow agreement.
2. Reserve Rules. Envoy’s reserve rules are outdated and complete BS! Just ask guys who made the jump from another carrier and they will shed some light on what an actual reserve system is like.
3. Pay raises. Envoy no longer has “industry leading pay” Everyone knows money talks. With the flow at 9 years for new hires, the company must come up with a different selling point other than “The 6 year flow”
It is a pilots’s market now! We as a pilot group need to take advantage of that. Call, email, text your union reps! Get the point across that we are worth more!
The union is concerned with the company being more restrictive on drinking before flying?
There are only 3 things that the union should be concerned about.
1. Flow- The company is blatantly violating the flow agreement.
2. Reserve Rules. Envoy’s reserve rules are outdated and complete BS! Just ask guys who made the jump from another carrier and they will shed some light on what an actual reserve system is like.
3. Pay raises. Envoy no longer has “industry leading pay” Everyone knows money talks. With the flow at 9 years for new hires, the company must come up with a different selling point other than “The 6 year flow”
It is a pilots’s market now! We as a pilot group need to take advantage of that. Call, email, text your union reps! Get the point across that we are worth more!
From memory pretty much everyone that happened to be on a sit/reserve at the time of the meeting (at least in LGA) pretty much brought up the fact that their primary concerns were with pay and then reserve rules.
Last edited by havick206; 01-25-2018 at 11:12 AM.
01-25-2018 | 10:47 AM
#6879
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Joined: Sep 2013
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Are you Fing kidding me?!?
The union is concerned with the company being more restrictive on drinking before flying?
There are only 3 things that the union should be concerned about.
1. Flow- The company is blatantly violating the flow agreement.
2. Reserve Rules. Envoy’s reserve rules are outdated and complete BS! Just ask guys who made the jump from another carrier and they will shed some light on what an actual reserve system is like.
3. Pay raises. Envoy no longer has “industry leading pay” Everyone knows money talks. With the flow at 9 years for new hires, the company must come up with a different selling point other than “The 6 year flow”
It is a pilots’s market now! We as a pilot group need to take advantage of that. Call, email, text your union reps! Get the point across that we are worth more!
The union is concerned with the company being more restrictive on drinking before flying?
There are only 3 things that the union should be concerned about.
1. Flow- The company is blatantly violating the flow agreement.
2. Reserve Rules. Envoy’s reserve rules are outdated and complete BS! Just ask guys who made the jump from another carrier and they will shed some light on what an actual reserve system is like.
3. Pay raises. Envoy no longer has “industry leading pay” Everyone knows money talks. With the flow at 9 years for new hires, the company must come up with a different selling point other than “The 6 year flow”
It is a pilots’s market now! We as a pilot group need to take advantage of that. Call, email, text your union reps! Get the point across that we are worth more!
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