Envoy
#6891
On Reserve
Joined APC: Nov 2017
Posts: 15
[QUOTE=RabidW0mbat;2511963]Thanks for the info, much appreciated. I'm really torn right now as to where I want to go. Obviously it's a personal decision only I can make (and you know, the whole getting an interview and being accepted...)
As I mentioned, I'll be 35 this summer, mid life career changer ... Our plan is to move back home to West Michigan in the next year or so, so ORD is a big deal)
Based on the past 12 months, the projection of growth at ORD through July, and the number of pilots who want DFW because of zero state taxes (and other reasons), and the handful who want East coast for personal reasons, you will undoubtedly get ORD if you want it.
The only thing that you will have to decide is which aircraft. That will depend on what comes to you (hard to project due to cadets and prior-121 experience having priority ... then age), but suggest planning for the 145 and hoping for the one you might prefer.
As I mentioned, I'll be 35 this summer, mid life career changer ... Our plan is to move back home to West Michigan in the next year or so, so ORD is a big deal)
Based on the past 12 months, the projection of growth at ORD through July, and the number of pilots who want DFW because of zero state taxes (and other reasons), and the handful who want East coast for personal reasons, you will undoubtedly get ORD if you want it.
The only thing that you will have to decide is which aircraft. That will depend on what comes to you (hard to project due to cadets and prior-121 experience having priority ... then age), but suggest planning for the 145 and hoping for the one you might prefer.
#6892
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Feb 2017
Posts: 260
Thanks for the info, much appreciated. I'm really torn right now as to where I want to go. Obviously it's a personal decision only I can make (and you know, the whole getting an interview and being accepted...)
As I mentioned, I'll be 35 this summer, mid life career changer, been slowly building my hours since 2007. Kids, life, & the recession / etc got in the way. Currently do IT full time for a national lab in Chicago, while there's stability and I make more then a 4 year captain at Envoy, it's just killing my soul. I want my kids to be able to fearlessly chase their dreams, and I have to set that example. That being said, I'm about topped out pay wise in IT, so long term aviation has a better potential.
Currently have 4 year of survey under my belt up through last year. 2 years of ferry flying off and on, and currently FO on a Citation XLS with a PIC type rating.(Pt 91) Our plan is to move back home to West Michigan in the next year or so, so ORD is big. I'm working on finishing my degree (I have about 85 credits now) but having the flow in my back pocket isn't a bad idea (even at 9 years...) I slung bags for America West / US Airways back in the day for 5 years, so I'm not totally new to the 121 world.
My current top 2 are Envoy and Air Wisconsin...but just started thinking about Endeavor too...I dunno, I'm still a couple hundred hours short that I'll finish over the summer, so there's lots of time for things to change.
Cheers.
-W0mbat.
As I mentioned, I'll be 35 this summer, mid life career changer, been slowly building my hours since 2007. Kids, life, & the recession / etc got in the way. Currently do IT full time for a national lab in Chicago, while there's stability and I make more then a 4 year captain at Envoy, it's just killing my soul. I want my kids to be able to fearlessly chase their dreams, and I have to set that example. That being said, I'm about topped out pay wise in IT, so long term aviation has a better potential.
Currently have 4 year of survey under my belt up through last year. 2 years of ferry flying off and on, and currently FO on a Citation XLS with a PIC type rating.(Pt 91) Our plan is to move back home to West Michigan in the next year or so, so ORD is big. I'm working on finishing my degree (I have about 85 credits now) but having the flow in my back pocket isn't a bad idea (even at 9 years...) I slung bags for America West / US Airways back in the day for 5 years, so I'm not totally new to the 121 world.
My current top 2 are Envoy and Air Wisconsin...but just started thinking about Endeavor too...I dunno, I'm still a couple hundred hours short that I'll finish over the summer, so there's lots of time for things to change.
Cheers.
-W0mbat.
You will literally make 15-20k more a year there in addition to having better work rules and more time off. Add in more efficient trips and it all makes for a better life. They have an ORD base that I believe is fairly junior.
#6893
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Dec 2016
Posts: 524
Assuming you don’t have any skeletons in your closet I would go Endevor. You are almost done with the degree, have what I am assuming a good work history and appear to be established. You should have no need for the flow.
You will literally make 15-20k more a year there in addition to having better work rules and more time off. Add in more efficient trips and it all makes for a better life. They have an ORD base that I believe is fairly junior.
You will literally make 15-20k more a year there in addition to having better work rules and more time off. Add in more efficient trips and it all makes for a better life. They have an ORD base that I believe is fairly junior.
#6894
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jan 2017
Posts: 190
Thanks for the info, much appreciated. I'm really torn right now as to where I want to go. Obviously it's a personal decision only I can make (and you know, the whole getting an interview and being accepted...)
As I mentioned, I'll be 35 this summer, mid life career changer, been slowly building my hours since 2007. Kids, life, & the recession / etc got in the way. Currently do IT full time for a national lab in Chicago, while there's stability and I make more then a 4 year captain at Envoy, it's just killing my soul. I want my kids to be able to fearlessly chase their dreams, and I have to set that example. That being said, I'm about topped out pay wise in IT, so long term aviation has a better potential.
Currently have 4 year of survey under my belt up through last year. 2 years of ferry flying off and on, and currently FO on a Citation XLS with a PIC type rating.(Pt 91) Our plan is to move back home to West Michigan in the next year or so, so ORD is big. I'm working on finishing my degree (I have about 85 credits now) but having the flow in my back pocket isn't a bad idea (even at 9 years...) I slung bags for America West / US Airways back in the day for 5 years, so I'm not totally new to the 121 world.
My current top 2 are Envoy and Air Wisconsin...but just started thinking about Endeavor too...I dunno, I'm still a couple hundred hours short that I'll finish over the summer, so there's lots of time for things to change.
Cheers.
-W0mbat.
As I mentioned, I'll be 35 this summer, mid life career changer, been slowly building my hours since 2007. Kids, life, & the recession / etc got in the way. Currently do IT full time for a national lab in Chicago, while there's stability and I make more then a 4 year captain at Envoy, it's just killing my soul. I want my kids to be able to fearlessly chase their dreams, and I have to set that example. That being said, I'm about topped out pay wise in IT, so long term aviation has a better potential.
Currently have 4 year of survey under my belt up through last year. 2 years of ferry flying off and on, and currently FO on a Citation XLS with a PIC type rating.(Pt 91) Our plan is to move back home to West Michigan in the next year or so, so ORD is big. I'm working on finishing my degree (I have about 85 credits now) but having the flow in my back pocket isn't a bad idea (even at 9 years...) I slung bags for America West / US Airways back in the day for 5 years, so I'm not totally new to the 121 world.
My current top 2 are Envoy and Air Wisconsin...but just started thinking about Endeavor too...I dunno, I'm still a couple hundred hours short that I'll finish over the summer, so there's lots of time for things to change.
Cheers.
-W0mbat.
#6895
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Feb 2017
Posts: 260
Ugh yeah you are correct. Not sure why I put ORD on there. My apologies. My intention was to say Detroit since that would be an easy way to work.
#6896
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Joined APC: Nov 2016
Posts: 178
Dropped trip
I had a trip dropped due to a delay/misconnect. I have had flying removed before and the hours still show on my HI3. This time they do not. My sequence is over. Should I contact scheduling now or wait and see if it shows up? I figure it is better to get ahead then wait.
#6897
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jun 2014
Posts: 210
I had a trip dropped due to a delay/misconnect. I have had flying removed before and the hours still show on my HI3. This time they do not. My sequence is over. Should I contact scheduling now or wait and see if it shows up? I figure it is better to get ahead then wait.
#6898
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Dec 2016
Posts: 524
If you're looking at moving to Michigan then Endeavor might be a great option. Detroit is a fairly JR base for them. The thing I worry about for you is the massive pay cut you're gonna take. It's gonna be hard on the family after getting used to that you're making now. Endeavor will minimize that pain as much as possible. The worst thing is to get started, then in 6-12 month quit because everyone is miserable. Also, I got a friend looking for an IT job, I'd appreciate a PM if you have leads in Chicago area
#6899
On Reserve
Joined APC: Dec 2014
Posts: 15
I am happy no one corrected my wording on the first line, what I meant to write is "one guy wanted the 4 hrs per diem". He went on for 10 minutes and was dead serious. The union guys kept trying to blow him off, but he would talk over them. Finally one of the union guys said I will give you 5.00 right now if you never grieve this. Most of the people in the crew room were stby, so all they talked about was day 1 rsv and more money.
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