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03-23-2017, 05:28 PM
#1893
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Upgrade times
I was doing some napkin math on upgrade times and was curious where the numbers are coming from.
If Envoy is hiring 60 or so per month as they have the past five months, that is roughly 720 per year. If the numbers on APC of 1850 pilots is accurate, I would guess slightly more than half of those are captains, or say 950, leaving 900 first officers. At the rate of 60 per month, it will only be 15 months to hire 900 new first officers. I'm reasonably certain not all of the attrition is captains, but even adding 20 percent to that should mean someone hired in this wave could make it to captain in 18 months.
Or am I missing part of the equation?
If Envoy is hiring 60 or so per month as they have the past five months, that is roughly 720 per year. If the numbers on APC of 1850 pilots is accurate, I would guess slightly more than half of those are captains, or say 950, leaving 900 first officers. At the rate of 60 per month, it will only be 15 months to hire 900 new first officers. I'm reasonably certain not all of the attrition is captains, but even adding 20 percent to that should mean someone hired in this wave could make it to captain in 18 months.
Or am I missing part of the equation?
03-23-2017, 05:35 PM
#1894
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Originally Posted by 402FreightDog
I was doing some napkin math on upgrade times and was curious where the numbers are coming from.
If Envoy is hiring 60 or so per month as they have the past five months, that is roughly 720 per year. If the numbers on APC of 1850 pilots is accurate, I would guess slightly more than half of those are captains, or say 950, leaving 900 first officers. At the rate of 60 per month, it will only be 15 months to hire 900 new first officers. I'm reasonably certain not all of the attrition is captains, but even adding 20 percent to that should mean someone hired in this wave could make it to captain in 18 months.
Or am I missing part of the equation?
If Envoy is hiring 60 or so per month as they have the past five months, that is roughly 720 per year. If the numbers on APC of 1850 pilots is accurate, I would guess slightly more than half of those are captains, or say 950, leaving 900 first officers. At the rate of 60 per month, it will only be 15 months to hire 900 new first officers. I'm reasonably certain not all of the attrition is captains, but even adding 20 percent to that should mean someone hired in this wave could make it to captain in 18 months.
Or am I missing part of the equation?
03-23-2017, 06:30 PM
#1895
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Originally Posted by 402FreightDog
I was doing some napkin math on upgrade times and was curious where the numbers are coming from.
If Envoy is hiring 60 or so per month as they have the past five months, that is roughly 720 per year. If the numbers on APC of 1850 pilots is accurate, I would guess slightly more than half of those are captains, or say 950, leaving 900 first officers. At the rate of 60 per month, it will only be 15 months to hire 900 new first officers. I'm reasonably certain not all of the attrition is captains, but even adding 20 percent to that should mean someone hired in this wave could make it to captain in 18 months.
Or am I missing part of the equation?
If Envoy is hiring 60 or so per month as they have the past five months, that is roughly 720 per year. If the numbers on APC of 1850 pilots is accurate, I would guess slightly more than half of those are captains, or say 950, leaving 900 first officers. At the rate of 60 per month, it will only be 15 months to hire 900 new first officers. I'm reasonably certain not all of the attrition is captains, but even adding 20 percent to that should mean someone hired in this wave could make it to captain in 18 months.
Or am I missing part of the equation?
03-23-2017, 06:58 PM
#1896
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Posts: 1,609
Originally Posted by Ijustlikeflying
It doesn't change your thoughts/napkin math much, but my seniority number was in the low 2000's when I got hired a few months ago. What's on APC is inaccurate, as far as pilot body goes.
There are two seniority numbers. One gets updated every six months on the master seniority list and the other gets updated slightly more frequently. This number is found in DECS and can be very different than the master seniority list since we have high attrition.
03-23-2017, 08:10 PM
#1897
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Students going to Paris would most likely be the Qualified upgrades....more prepared and less affected by the distractions.
For Instructors it will most likely be only check airman since they can teach and do the checking events....the company doesn't want to send over more people than they have to. Plus I heard it is only one sim.
For Instructors it will most likely be only check airman since they can teach and do the checking events....the company doesn't want to send over more people than they have to. Plus I heard it is only one sim.
03-23-2017, 10:02 PM
#1899
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Originally Posted by Student01
New wifi and FMS in E140/145 A/C means they are staying on Envoy's property for a while?
Not transferring to PDT?
Not transferring to PDT?
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