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Old 03-25-2017 | 03:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Out West
Wow, thanks for the info! I'm retiring from the military soon at 41 -since age is relative in this game, is that old enough (as a guess?)

I actually fly Envoy direct DFW every time I leave home on business west bound. The problem might be the seniority thing for overnights here. It's not the hotel, per se, but it's Destin, FL. Not exactly a rough place to visit!
It varies, but you'd have a good shot at it. Last class the most junior 175 new hire was actually in his early 30s.
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Old 03-25-2017 | 05:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Out West
Wow, thanks for the info! I'm retiring from the military soon at 41 -since age is relative in this game, is that old enough (as a guess?)

I actually fly Envoy direct DFW every time I leave home on business west bound. The problem might be the seniority thing for overnights here. It's not the hotel, per se, but it's Destin, FL. Not exactly a rough place to visit!
Well, I'm 41 and the 175 was not an option by the time it was my turn. But like the other guy says, it varies. Seems like most of the classes I've seen are late 30s.
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Old 03-25-2017 | 05:50 PM
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Make sense. At least part of everything is a roll of the dice I'm guessing?

So you're saying there's a chance...
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Old 03-25-2017 | 11:14 PM
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Question for anyone going through training now or recently, looking for pros and cons, pointers, gotchas, regarding the training with Envoy. Are they AQP? How are the flows, callouts, esp compared to any previous regional airlines? Are the instructors currently line pilots or semi-retired/failed medical types? Hoping to spend the training time with instructors who like to instruct and not drill sergeant types. Getting too old for that. Thanks. PM if necessary.
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Old 03-25-2017 | 11:38 PM
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I've recently completed AQP training on the 145 and will say this;

Learn your flows from AOM 1 and use the expanded checklist so that you understand why you're doing what you're doing. Also make sure you know your limitations. After that, learn your profiles, and you're going to make it just fine. I suggest using lunchtime to practice on the FMS trainer as well.

All of my sim instructors (except one who was retired but had flown the line for years) were line pilots and were top notch. They want you to get through the program and will help you fix the areas where you are deficient.

I can't speak to the CRJ or the 175, but from what I hear the instructors are all cut from the same cloth. I loved my training experience. Don't get me wrong, it was humbling and by no means a cakewalk, but the people made it much easier to get through.

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Question for anyone going through training now or recently, looking for pros and cons, pointers, gotchas, regarding the training with Envoy. Are they AQP? How are the flows, callouts, esp compared to any previous regional airlines? Are the instructors currently line pilots or semi-retired/failed medical types? Hoping to spend the training time with instructors who like to instruct and not drill sergeant types. Getting too old for that. Thanks. PM if necessary.
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Old 03-26-2017 | 01:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Out West
Wow, thanks for the info! I'm retiring from the military soon at 41 -since age is relative in this game, is that old enough (as a guess?)

I actually fly Envoy direct DFW every time I leave home on business west bound. The problem might be the seniority thing for overnights here. It's not the hotel, per se, but it's Destin, FL. Not exactly a rough place to visit!
Why would you want to commute to DFW to be on reserve on the 175 for a long long time? Because it has wing mounted engines The 145 has much better movement. Reserve is tolerable in base, it's terrible for commuters.

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Old 03-26-2017 | 02:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Purpleanga
Why would you want to commute to DFW to be on reserve on the 175 for a long long time? Because it has under wing mounted engines The 145 has much better movement. Reserve is tolerable in base, it's terrible for commuters.
Not sure I follow, equipment is completely irrelevant to me. Is DFW all one type or something?

DFW = direct flight.
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Old 03-26-2017 | 02:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Out West
Not sure I follow, equipment is completely irrelevant to me. Is DFW all one type or something?

DFW = direct flight.
In the other posts it sounded like the 175 was a priority just because of the DFW base. You can get the 145 now out of DFW with better movement if you can wait month or two to transfer. Sounds like the 175 wave is ending and if you're on that now you'll be on reserve for a long time as the guys above you are still very junior in the company.
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Old 03-26-2017 | 04:18 AM
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Gotcha - now I'm following.

In my case, the QOL trumps all and that begins with commute. The background equipment info is much appreciated though, I wasn't aware of the differences there in the inter-fleet seniority. Thanks!!
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Old 03-26-2017 | 07:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Purpleanga
Why would you want to commute to DFW to be on reserve on the 175 for a long long time? Because it has wing mounted engines The 145 has much better movement. Reserve is tolerable in base, it's terrible for commuters.
Reserve on the 175 is a month or 2. I finished IOE first week of February and have a line for April.
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