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12-29-2017, 12:01 PM

#6371

moon

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Originally Posted by highflyer1980

Spineless pilots like yourself are exactly why our QOL keeps declining. You still want that B scale? How about PBS? I hear that is a BIG winner for the FAs. Yuge! I guarantee it! Let me guess, you’re upset about the reserve throw out?

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Jesus it was a joke, old people no sense of humor..... I was against that reserve crap deal. We need gains without giving anything up. Never wanted a B-Scale and I'm pretty sure nobody wants PBS.

12-29-2017, 01:41 PM

#6372

jonrayburn

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Originally Posted by yeahbutstill

So you know they're having a hard time finding new hires when they lie on the Envoy recruit facebook page.
$74000 as a first yer FO??
6 year flow for new hire??

Then they deleted everyone's comments, because the truth hurts.

12-29-2017, 04:08 PM

#6373

Dmaxvelo18

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Anyone know when we could expect to hear about a new reserve system since the last one was shot down? (And rightfully so)

And since when are FO's getting $74k year one? Cause that's not what I'm making.. not even close.

12-29-2017, 04:12 PM

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Dmaxvelo18

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Originally Posted by yeahbutstill

So you know they're having a hard time finding new hires when they lie on the Envoy recruit facebook page.
$74000 as a first yer FO??
6 year flow for new hire??

Not to mention "growing E-175 fleet"
Uhhh sure, but we are losing all 30 of our 700's to PSA and a number of 145's to piedmont... aircraft wise we are not "growing" at all the way I see it...

12-29-2017, 04:50 PM

#6375

jonrayburn

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Originally Posted by Dmaxvelo18

Not to mention "growing E-175 fleet"
Uhhh sure, but we are losing all 30 of our 700's to PSA and a number of 145's to piedmont... aircraft wise we are not "growing" at all the way I see it...

all while PSA is increasing their flow to 10 per month.

12-29-2017, 06:13 PM

#6376

use2fly

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Originally Posted by Dmaxvelo18

Not to mention "growing E-175 fleet"
Uhhh sure, but we are losing all 30 of our 700's to PSA and a number of 145's to piedmont... aircraft wise we are not "growing" at all the way I see it...

Unfortunately, we are growing. We just got 4 new E175s and 10 more in 2018, plus 40 or so EMB 140s coming out of retirement. Get rid of the damn CRJs so we can catch up with staffing. Growth sucks for QOL!

12-30-2017, 03:27 AM

#6377

bigtime209

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Originally Posted by Dmaxvelo18

Not to mention "growing E-175 fleet"
Uhhh sure, but we are losing all 30 of our 700's to PSA and a number of 145's to piedmont... aircraft wise we are not "growing" at all the way I see it...

Unfortunately, that's incorrect. We are growing. And at this point that's not a good thing.

12-30-2017, 05:37 AM

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chrisreedrules

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Originally Posted by jonrayburn

all while PSA is increasing their flow to 10 per month.

Which truthfully is still lower than it should be considering the metrics Envoy pilots hired after 2014 and Piedmont pilots enjoy. 10 /month is good. 12-15 would have been closer to the metrics at EVY and PDT. We’ll be flowing 2014 hires by late 2018 / early 2019 though which is incredible for those hired right in that early 2014 “sweet spot”. Plus I guess the company and union have agreed that when PSA stops growing they will revisit our flow agreement with the possibility of increasing it further.

12-30-2017, 06:45 AM

#6379

3EngineTaxi

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Originally Posted by chrisreedrules

We’ll be flowing 2014 hires by late 2018 / early 2019 though which is incredible for those hired right in that early 2014 “sweet spot”.

Wow. That stings, especially considering 2011 hires from another subsidiary of a holding company won't go until well into 2020 at the earliest.

12-30-2017, 07:23 AM

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moon

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Originally Posted by chrisreedrules

Hopefully those "sweet spot" pilots don't do any Union duties at APA. Not afraid to sell the rest of the industry down the river for personal gain. Wish I was flowing to American sooner but would never want to be one of those people.