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Dilly dilly
#8134
Like you, I see Envoy as a paid internship. I don't think many people would prefer to stay at Envoy their entire careers. However, denying that it's a possibility the majors won't call you is a little bit arrogant.
There's nothing to be gained by intentionally trying to make this place crappy because you have a plan to get to Boeing nirvana. Maybe the market tanks and you wind up a 20 year regional pilot, or get a spot at an LCC if you're lucky.
There's nothing to be gained by intentionally trying to make this place crappy because you have a plan to get to Boeing nirvana. Maybe the market tanks and you wind up a 20 year regional pilot, or get a spot at an LCC if you're lucky.
I'm a libertarian at heart... Companies can do as they wish... It's up to the employees to walk out if the work rules are unsatisfactory. We have the power
#8135
I know people have lives... I'm one of them. But it's also the companies choice to do as they wish, don't like it then head out the door. People did (like me) and now things are different.
#8136
After 9 years at these so-called “stepping stones,” I’m done with viewing them as such. When you are moving passengers who bought tickets from American Airlines on airplanes that are owned by American Airlines, and are even the same type rating as those actually operated by pilots of American Airlines (our shiny new 175s are the same type rating as Mainline’s 190s), you should be PAID the same as pilots at American Airlines who are doing the SAME JOB. $88 and hour for new-hire FOs and $161 an hour for DECs is fair for the same work. Stop viewing yourselves as anything less than what you are truly worth. If AA is willing to pay those rates for pilots who have AA employee numbers to operate the Embraer 170/190 type while moving their passengers, then we should expect nothing less. After all, equal work means equal pay in The United States Of America.
#8137
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I completely agree with what you've said. I think the disconnect is that people are very entitled and expect a lot of a stepping stone career move. There's a balance. I don't want to be bent over (which is why I got out of the industry in 2012), but I also don't think we should be paid 150k a year and have equal work rules as the majors.
I'm a libertarian at heart... Companies can do as they wish... It's up to the employees to walk out if the work rules are unsatisfactory. We have the power
I'm a libertarian at heart... Companies can do as they wish... It's up to the employees to walk out if the work rules are unsatisfactory. We have the power
UAL is hiring 1500 hr CFIs direct to mainline. If we are safe enough to fly a 175 on former 737 routes we should get paid for such duties.
If you think differently quit and go drive a school bus.
#8138
I completely agree with what you've said. I think the disconnect is that people are very entitled and expect a lot of a stepping stone career move. There's a balance. I don't want to be bent over (which is why I got out of the industry in 2012), but I also don't think we should be paid 150k a year and have equal work rules as the majors.
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