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Old 06-14-2018, 12:06 PM
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Does anyone know when you can apply for a FO position? Do you need to wait until you reach the min or could you apply early and receive a conditional offer, assuming you are not in their pipeline program? I was unable to find such info on the website. I also tried emailing a couple of recruiters listed on the Contact page, but did not hear back from them.
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Old 06-14-2018, 12:24 PM
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When picking up a P2P trip off HIPOST, is it paid at straight pay or considered OT? Couldn’t find anything related to HIPOST in the CBA. Thanks!
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Old 06-14-2018, 12:38 PM
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Does anyone know when you can apply for a FO position? Do you need to wait until you reach the min or could you apply early and receive a conditional offer, assuming you are not in their pipeline program? I was unable to find such info on the website. I also tried emailing a couple of recruiters listed on the Contact page, but did not hear back from them.
They have really slowed street hires atm, for whatever reason. Many theories exist as to why, but that is irrelevant atm. Are you able to or wanting to join the cadet program they offer?

Short of that, if I remember correctly, you can interview short of what you need so long as they feel you will hit the hours you need prior to being hired on. That was awhile ago though and things are changing rapidly.
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Old 06-14-2018, 01:03 PM
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Originally Posted by pilotue View Post
Does anyone know when you can apply for a FO position? Do you need to wait until you reach the min or could you apply early and receive a conditional offer, assuming you are not in their pipeline program? I was unable to find such info on the website. I also tried emailing a couple of recruiters listed on the Contact page, but did not hear back from them.
Envoy isn't really hiring FO's OTS right now.

DEC's and Cadets.
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Old 06-14-2018, 01:42 PM
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Is there a way to get out of blocks of reserve days using bidding? Don't care about pay.

Not quite sure what you're asking here but the answer is probably "not really." If you mean during monthly bidding the only way you can get out of any rsv days is if you have flying/training/vacation ect. that conflicts with them or through some sort of legality issue (eg. 7 day conflict)


As far as getting rid of an entire block after the monthly bid; it's tricky. Each day is separate so you may be able to drop/trade/PVD a few days out of the block but there's a decent chance you won't get the entire block off. If it's important to get ALL and not just some of the days off make sure you let scheduling know that when you send in the request(s). If you're trying to get days off for an important event that can't be moved my suggestion would be to try bidding around it, then try the aforementioned methods, and if that still doesn't work talk to your CPO and they may be able to help.
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Old 06-14-2018, 01:48 PM
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Originally Posted by KodiakRS View Post
Not quite sure what you're asking here but the answer is probably "not really." If you mean during monthly bidding the only way you can get out of any rsv days is if you have flying/training/vacation ect. that conflicts with them or through some sort of legality issue (eg. 7 day conflict)


As far as getting rid of an entire block after the monthly bid; it's tricky. Each day is separate so you may be able to drop/trade/PVD a few days out of the block but there's a decent chance you won't get the entire block off. If it's important to get ALL and not just some of the days off make sure you let scheduling know that when you send in the request(s). If you're trying to get days off for an important event that can't be moved my suggestion would be to try bidding around it, then try the aforementioned methods, and if that still doesn't work talk to your CPO and they may be able to help.
Exactly what I wanted to know, thanks.
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Old 06-14-2018, 02:50 PM
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Exactly what I wanted to know, thanks.
You can also request to drop individual reserve days by emailing swaps & drops. Obviously they can deny the request, but sometimes they'll let you do it.
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Old 06-14-2018, 05:15 PM
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When I grow up I wanna be like AviatiorChavez... but I’m too lazy and I hate working.
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Old 06-14-2018, 06:46 PM
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Does anyone know when you can apply for a FO position? Do you need to wait until you reach the min or could you apply early and receive a conditional offer, assuming you are not in their pipeline program? I was unable to find such info on the website. I also tried emailing a couple of recruiters listed on the Contact page, but did not hear back from them.
The job offer is good for up to 12 months...so something inside of that will probably work.

Street FO hiring appears to be slow, but not dead. I know a guy starting in August (his choice) who isn’t coming from any recruitment program.
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Old 06-14-2018, 07:03 PM
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I am looking at the RTP pipeline and had just a couple of questions regarding the slow down of FO hiring and the timing of new hires right now:

1. Reserve coverage/time at LGA: Does the focus on DECs for training slots and the slow down of FOs result in a longer time on reserve or possible slower movement for new hire FOs since less are coming on than in the past few years?

2. Backlogs in training: Due to my age I will most likely get the 145 in LGA. There is supposedly a pool after completing the time at coast, but once in training is it continuous without significant bubbles between phases? The last post I could find was back in January saying it was pretty efficient and was just looking for the most up to date info.

3. Actually flying as a FO: Some posters are talking about sitting reserve in LGA and not making the 100 hours in 3 months off IOE, is this a typical experience? If willing to use trip trade etc, can this be avoided?

4. Upgrade timing: From what I have heard and read, upgrades are happening right at the 950/1000 mark. Due to the large number of FOs and the new FO development program am I behind the wave where a surge of FOs hired in 2016-17 are about to hit the window and the instant upgrades will begin to slow?
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