Is ExpressJet that bad?
#51
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Legacy carriers don't look at extra sims and how long it took to get off IOE doesn't really show up either. All that shows up are busted line checks and check rides.
I know for a fact that they have gotten some doozies, though most of the ones I know who moved on were good sticks. There was an infamous LASA pilot who had serious training issues. Picked up by a legacy and the training issues continued- couldn't make it through MD training. Rather than being terminated put into pilot recruiting until could hold an easier airframe. Now I hear in the training department.
I know for a fact that they have gotten some doozies, though most of the ones I know who moved on were good sticks. There was an infamous LASA pilot who had serious training issues. Picked up by a legacy and the training issues continued- couldn't make it through MD training. Rather than being terminated put into pilot recruiting until could hold an easier airframe. Now I hear in the training department.

OMG!
I know exactly who you are talking about!
A friend told me one day that she took his resume at a job fair. That obnoxious ***** actually said "well, you have a lot of experience, but you aren't anything special. I'd recommend becoming a CP or a LCP."
And everyone knows exactly how she got where she is. She answered the phone on reserve, and wound up all over the news for being another "first." The place where she is could never fire her. No matter how horrible she is.
I heard some people resigned from the training dept rather than sign her off.
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[QUOTE=jcountry;2566600]OMG!
I know exactly who you are talking about!
A friend told me one day that she took his resume at a job fair. That obnoxious ***** actually said "well, you have a lot of experience, but you aren't anything special. I'd recommend becoming a CP or a LCP."
A guy I flew with had the same thing happen years ago. He was one of the very bottom pilots who just beat a furlough and all he could hold was Guam 727 flight engineer. He went to either a job fair or interview (can’t remember) and a very young UAL pilot talked down to him because he was still on the panel after 5+ years at the company. She went on to say that after that amount of time he should be a captain and staying on the panel showed lack of motivation. She wouldn’t accept that FE in Guam was all that he could hold since at the time UAL had 5 year captrains. She was hired at a major with low qualifications at a time when there was rapid movement at her company. She had no idea what the industry norm was.
I know exactly who you are talking about!
A friend told me one day that she took his resume at a job fair. That obnoxious ***** actually said "well, you have a lot of experience, but you aren't anything special. I'd recommend becoming a CP or a LCP."
A guy I flew with had the same thing happen years ago. He was one of the very bottom pilots who just beat a furlough and all he could hold was Guam 727 flight engineer. He went to either a job fair or interview (can’t remember) and a very young UAL pilot talked down to him because he was still on the panel after 5+ years at the company. She went on to say that after that amount of time he should be a captain and staying on the panel showed lack of motivation. She wouldn’t accept that FE in Guam was all that he could hold since at the time UAL had 5 year captrains. She was hired at a major with low qualifications at a time when there was rapid movement at her company. She had no idea what the industry norm was.
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#54
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What?
The only benefit nowadays is getting to say “I was bumped off flights for 6 hours and got to stay an extra night at the Red Roof. It was great!”
Non rev benfits are a total ripoff-especially for connection carriers.
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I was at the hanger. My friends sister is in that class so I stoped in to say hi. The FA instructor who i also know told me all that... all 15+Year ASA FA’s..... guess if they go to OO they can retire and get to keep DL pass privileges... smart move... plus now they get AS/AA/UA also.
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I was at the hanger. My friends sister is in that class so I stoped in to say hi. The FA instructor who i also know told me all that... all 15+Year ASA FA’s..... guess if they go to OO they can retire and get to keep DL pass privileges... smart move... plus now they get AS/AA/UA also.
#58
Yeah...they were supposed to have DAL passes for life with ASA as well. The last company I would go work for is the scumbag operation that put my company out of business. OO will have it’s day. They’re already struggling with attrition. Seems like they can’t fathom people leaving the kool-aid dispenser for a company with good pay and benefits.
#59
Eh it’s the same old story with new hires. Either you get great ones that know how to fly and try to be a huge sponge to be even better pilots. Or you get guys that can’t do something as simple as hold speed in a descent talking about how they should leave XJT to go be a direct entry captain at GoJet.
#60
Lol what? Your reading comprehension is terrible. I’ll try again.
Eh it’s the same old story with new hires. Either you get great ones that know how to fly and try to be a huge sponge to be even better pilots. Or you get guys that can’t do something as simple as hold speed in a descent talking about how they should leave XJT to go be a direct entry captain at GoJet.
Eh it’s the same old story with new hires. Either you get great ones that know how to fly and try to be a huge sponge to be even better pilots. Or you get guys that can’t do something as simple as hold speed in a descent talking about how they should leave XJT to go be a direct entry captain at GoJet.
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