Time for new thread!! TA passes 90%
10-17-2018, 05:25 AM
#121
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Originally Posted by Texxx
That there is the problem. You're wrong more than you are right.
So, I was wrong on late next year versus mid next year by a couple of months. So what? The renewal or roll-off of the Ejets is coming up pretty soon.
When again did you say that the announcement of the Ejet award of 25 was coming Xjet’s way?
10-17-2018, 06:45 AM
#122
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Originally Posted by calmwinds
Oh, I admit my mistakes. You must be a gem in the airplane.
So, I was wrong on late next year versus mid next year by a couple of months. So what? The renewal or roll-off of the Ejets is coming up pretty soon.
When again did you say that the announcement of the Ejet award of 25 was coming Xjet’s way?
So, I was wrong on late next year versus mid next year by a couple of months. So what? The renewal or roll-off of the Ejets is coming up pretty soon.
When again did you say that the announcement of the Ejet award of 25 was coming Xjet’s way?
You admit you make mistakes. I hope your performance in the cockpit is better than on APC. But then again you work for JO, MESA.
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10-17-2018, 07:32 AM
#123
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Only reason I’m curious is because I’ve heard from more than a couple people at AAG that they want a 100% WO feed within 5 years. A change from their plan of mostly WO with a couple of subcontracted regionals providing lift...
To that end, they realize they won’t be able to grow their existing WOs without significant investment in pilot compensation etc which they have shown themselves to be averse to since classes are full and they place a high dollar value on the flow programs. Which would mean purchasing a regional or 2...
I’ve heard Mesa’s name floated in that same conversation but because they flew for both UA and AA I never thought it very likely. But, if Mesa were to shed it’s UA flying and focus/grow more of its AA flying that could point to a buyout from American. Lose its 20 CRJ700s and then the 175s transfer to Republic and perhaps ExpressJet while AA grows some of their flying with them.
To that end, they realize they won’t be able to grow their existing WOs without significant investment in pilot compensation etc which they have shown themselves to be averse to since classes are full and they place a high dollar value on the flow programs. Which would mean purchasing a regional or 2...
I’ve heard Mesa’s name floated in that same conversation but because they flew for both UA and AA I never thought it very likely. But, if Mesa were to shed it’s UA flying and focus/grow more of its AA flying that could point to a buyout from American. Lose its 20 CRJ700s and then the 175s transfer to Republic and perhaps ExpressJet while AA grows some of their flying with them.
10-17-2018, 10:16 AM
#124
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Originally Posted by chrisreedrules
Only reason I’m curious is because I’ve heard from more than a couple people at AAG that they want a 100% WO feed within 5 years. A change from their plan of mostly WO with a couple of subcontracted regionals providing lift...
To that end, they realize they won’t be able to grow their existing WOs without significant investment in pilot compensation etc which they have shown themselves to be averse to since classes are full and they place a high dollar value on the flow programs. Which would mean purchasing a regional or 2...
I’ve heard Mesa’s name floated in that same conversation but because they flew for both UA and AA I never thought it very likely. But, if Mesa were to shed it’s UA flying and focus/grow more of its AA flying that could point to a buyout from American. Lose its 20 CRJ700s and then the 175s transfer to Republic and perhaps ExpressJet while AA grows some of their flying with them.
To that end, they realize they won’t be able to grow their existing WOs without significant investment in pilot compensation etc which they have shown themselves to be averse to since classes are full and they place a high dollar value on the flow programs. Which would mean purchasing a regional or 2...
I’ve heard Mesa’s name floated in that same conversation but because they flew for both UA and AA I never thought it very likely. But, if Mesa were to shed it’s UA flying and focus/grow more of its AA flying that could point to a buyout from American. Lose its 20 CRJ700s and then the 175s transfer to Republic and perhaps ExpressJet while AA grows some of their flying with them.
I easily could see the CRJ700’s and Ejets (less the 18 they own) go away from United and I expect American would make the move.
10-17-2018, 02:10 PM
#126
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Originally Posted by Blackhawk
They can’t. But they don’t have to keep you employed. It was part of the written agreement between the MECs giving ExpressJet pilots preferential hiring.
I don’t think people understand how new it is to be able to take “Employment Leave”. Up until 9/11 it was normal for a pilot to be required to resign their seniority number from one airline if they were hired at another airline. ASA was one of the first to change this when we did not require furloughed Delta pilots hired by ASA to resign and gave them preferential hiring.
I don’t think people understand how new it is to be able to take “Employment Leave”. Up until 9/11 it was normal for a pilot to be required to resign their seniority number from one airline if they were hired at another airline. ASA was one of the first to change this when we did not require furloughed Delta pilots hired by ASA to resign and gave them preferential hiring.
But how did they even know about it? Like you said, it’s not common. And it’s also pretty crappy for a company to force you to abrogate your legally binding contract. The MECs should’ve not let them strong arm the pilots like that. For me, it would say a lot about a company who isn’t sure they could keep you after one year. Oh well, good luck for those going there.
10-17-2018, 03:04 PM
#127
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Originally Posted by Nevjets
But how did they even know about it? Like you said, it’s not common. And it’s also pretty crappy for a company to force you to abrogate your legally binding contract. The MECs should’ve not let them strong arm the pilots like that. For me, it would say a lot about a company who isn’t sure they could keep you after one year. Oh well, good luck for those going there.
Second, no one is forcing anyone to take a job at Kalitta. The necessity to resign is known before taking the job. A pilot may exercise their free will and take the job or not take it.
Third, their was no “strong arming”. This was a deal worked out between the two MECs and based upon the number of pilots who have taken it (over a hundred), it seems to be a pretty good deal.
Fourth, employment leave doesn’t last a year. It’s 180 days. Do you even work here??
Finally, as I said it was pretty normal until recently that you had to resign your when you take a position elsewhere. It’s still the case with other regionals.
10-18-2018, 05:03 AM
#129
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Originally Posted by Blackhawk
Uhh. Ok. First, it’s in our contract and public knowledge. Everyone without their head up theor rear end knows about the employment leave.
Second, no one is forcing anyone to take a job at Kalitta. The necessity to resign is known before taking the job. A pilot may exercise their free will and take the job or not take it.
Third, their was no “strong arming”. This was a deal worked out between the two MECs and based upon the number of pilots who have taken it (over a hundred), it seems to be a pretty good deal.
Fourth, employment leave doesn’t last a year. It’s 180 days. Do you even work here??
Finally, as I said it was pretty normal until recently that you had to resign your when you take a position elsewhere. It’s still the case with other regionals.
Second, no one is forcing anyone to take a job at Kalitta. The necessity to resign is known before taking the job. A pilot may exercise their free will and take the job or not take it.
Third, their was no “strong arming”. This was a deal worked out between the two MECs and based upon the number of pilots who have taken it (over a hundred), it seems to be a pretty good deal.
Fourth, employment leave doesn’t last a year. It’s 180 days. Do you even work here??
Finally, as I said it was pretty normal until recently that you had to resign your when you take a position elsewhere. It’s still the case with other regionals.
Sorry, not sure why I said a year. Like I said, good luck to those going over. I just hate to see a company circumvent a pilot contract like this. It’s a shame they couldn’t honor it.
10-18-2018, 06:14 AM
#130
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Originally Posted by Nevjets
Sorry, not sure why I said a year. Like I said, good luck to those going over. I just hate to see a company circumvent a pilot contract like this. It’s a shame they couldn’t honor it.
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