Time for new thread!! TA passes 90%
09-27-2018, 10:15 AM
#21
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Originally Posted by Blackhawk
You’re absolutely illogical in this. You think we are going to be wound down. What... in 3 years or so? Section 6 negotiations, if are are wound down, will take at least that long. Might as well get paid more in the process. Or if I offered you free money would you actually turn it down?
This isn't Harry Potter where only a select, and gifted few wave a wand and have access to 'magic' ink.
09-27-2018, 10:21 AM
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Originally Posted by DownInPetaluma
I'm looking at the facts. Granted, I am not, nor ever have been privy to the negotiations, but I have NEVER heard of this type of 'magic' language in a legal document.
This isn't Harry Potter where only a select, and gifted few wave a wand and have access to 'magic' ink.
This isn't Harry Potter where only a select, and gifted few wave a wand and have access to 'magic' ink.
If ALPA lawyers are ok with it... I certainly don’t know better.
09-27-2018, 10:31 AM
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Congrats to the XJT group.
More like a change of the ailment with a decrease in syptoms
So do I 
And in the process they screwed Pinnacle, COMAIR, AWAC, ASA, ACA, etc.
Hope for the best, plan for the worst.
That's the mindset many of us had when hired before 9/11 and got to suck up the dark decade (and a half) before getting to move on.
Hopefully it never happens to you. But when/if it does, you and many others will see in in a different perspective.
Originally Posted by RoyerYetlink
More like cure for SGU runs deep
Originally Posted by BoilerUP
Anybody remember a long, long time ago in a galaxy far, far away when Skywest pilots agreed to fly 70 seat jets for 50 seat pay?
Pepperidge Farm remembers.
Pepperidge Farm remembers.
And in the process they screwed Pinnacle, COMAIR, AWAC, ASA, ACA, etc.
Originally Posted by PontiusPilot
People place too much emphasis on top-out rates, which most of the pilot group should hope to never see.
Come to a regional and upgrade quickly, enjoy good work rules and respectable pay, and move on to a major or legacy in 4-5 years. That's the standard formula that most regional pilots are looking for, and fortunately this new contract is the first step in delivering that.
Come to a regional and upgrade quickly, enjoy good work rules and respectable pay, and move on to a major or legacy in 4-5 years. That's the standard formula that most regional pilots are looking for, and fortunately this new contract is the first step in delivering that.
That's the mindset many of us had when hired before 9/11 and got to suck up the dark decade (and a half) before getting to move on.
Hopefully it never happens to you. But when/if it does, you and many others will see in in a different perspective.
09-27-2018, 10:51 AM
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Originally Posted by John Carr
Congrats to the XJT group.
More like a change of the ailment with a decrease in syptoms
So do I
And in the process they screwed Pinnacle, COMAIR, AWAC, ASA, ACA, etc.
Hope for the best, plan for the worst.
That's the mindset many of us had when hired before 9/11 and got to suck up the dark decade (and a half) before getting to move on.
Hopefully it never happens to you. But when/if it does, you and many others will see in in a different perspective.
More like a change of the ailment with a decrease in syptoms
So do I
And in the process they screwed Pinnacle, COMAIR, AWAC, ASA, ACA, etc.
Hope for the best, plan for the worst.
That's the mindset many of us had when hired before 9/11 and got to suck up the dark decade (and a half) before getting to move on.
Hopefully it never happens to you. But when/if it does, you and many others will see in in a different perspective.
09-27-2018, 11:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Blackhawk
I was around before 9/11
Originally Posted by Blackhawk
but I understand why there is a need to focus on new hires and attract new blood.
Originally Posted by Blackhawk
We can have top rates of $175/hour, but $175x0=0
09-27-2018, 11:58 AM
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Originally Posted by John Carr
As was I.
09-27-2018, 12:24 PM
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Originally Posted by PhantomHawk
He’s making a point. Good pay rates don’t mean squat if there’s no flying.
But if SGU/ATL didnt have their heads up their collective rectums, the attraction/retention of pilots could have been solved long ago.
Originally Posted by Blackhawk
Ummm... yeah, I know. You said so in the post I responded to. I was letting you know that I was here then as well. Of course, 9/11 gave us places like GoJet. It got us sold to SkyWest Inc which has been so, so enjoyable.
09-27-2018, 12:29 PM
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Originally Posted by John Carr
Understood and aware. But why not make it good for EVRYONE on property? I’ve been through plenty of CBA’s, you don’t need to answer.
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