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03-10-2019, 11:03 AM
#321
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Originally Posted by Blackhawk
I’m really trying to figure out if UAL cares 2 chits about anything regarding the regionals.
It’s been proven over the last 15-20 years, UAL doesn’t.
Quite the shame really.
03-10-2019, 08:54 PM
#322
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Originally Posted by Blackhawk
I’m really trying to figure out if UAL cares 2 chits about anything regarding the regionals. It appeared like it was going to throw ExpressJet some loving, then it turns around and gives GoJet more flying. Obviously no desire to consolidate the regional portfolio.
03-11-2019, 04:28 AM
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Originally Posted by afterburn81
XJT cannot even staff the flying per the original CPA. Now they’ve added another 25 aircraft and still cannot staff it. Why the heck would United award more flying to struggling airline when another already has the staffing and resources in place to do it? Business 101 really.
Can’t get staffing unless there is a commitment from the legacy on a future. Look at what was happening with Endeavor or Envoy/Eagle before. Both were having major staffing issues a few years ago until their major partners made commitments to their futures. Once that was evident staffing improved, to the point that Endeavor now has a long wait for class dates.
Much of the staffing issue at xjt would have taken care of itself with a real commitment by UAL to future growth.
03-11-2019, 05:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Blackhawk
What comes first, the chicken or the egg? No new FOs, no new aircraft. No new aircraft and a promise of lowered upgrade times no new FOs.
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Much of the staffing issue at xjt would have taken care of itself with a real commitment by UAL to future growth.
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Much of the staffing issue at xjt would have taken care of itself with a real commitment by UAL to future growth.
03-11-2019, 05:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Southern Fried
The announcement of CRJ 550s for GoJet didn't help XJT. The CRJ 550 seems like a good idea though.
UAL seems quite happy with 8 regionals and the mess it causes. They will never change.
03-11-2019, 06:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Blackhawk
What comes first, the chicken or the egg? No new FOs, no new aircraft. No new aircraft and a promise of lowered upgrade times no new FOs.
Can’t get staffing unless there is a commitment from the legacy on a future. Look at what was happening with Endeavor or Envoy/Eagle before. Both were having major staffing issues a few years ago until their major partners made commitments to their futures. Once that was evident staffing improved, to the point that Endeavor now has a long wait for class dates.
Much of the staffing issue at xjt would have taken care of itself with a real commitment by UAL to future growth.
Can’t get staffing unless there is a commitment from the legacy on a future. Look at what was happening with Endeavor or Envoy/Eagle before. Both were having major staffing issues a few years ago until their major partners made commitments to their futures. Once that was evident staffing improved, to the point that Endeavor now has a long wait for class dates.
Much of the staffing issue at xjt would have taken care of itself with a real commitment by UAL to future growth.
Now if things were stabilized with training and hiring was showing measurable trends over a period of time, solid growth and commitment from UAL will have to be a thing in order to continue attracting and retaining pilots.
What you say is makes perfect sense. On paper. Realistically though, it might play out a little less favorably for all parties interested.
03-11-2019, 07:34 AM
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Originally Posted by afterburn81
I totally agree with that philosophy. I’m just thinking realistically. Say United awards all the 550s to XJT. Would they be able to train enough pilots to absorb all the 550s, New 175s and all 120 or so 145s? All in a timely manner that wouldn’t disrupt United flying? I was trying to make a point of how simple things are right now and the company is actively reducing block hours so as to reduce flight crew related cancellations. To keep their heads above water. There’s no way XJT could handle any more than what they’ve got on their plate. Management is simply not strong enough to work through it.
Now if things were stabilized with training and hiring was showing measurable trends over a period of time, solid growth and commitment from UAL will have to be a thing in order to continue attracting and retaining pilots.
What you say is makes perfect sense. On paper. Realistically though, it might play out a little less favorably for all parties interested.
Now if things were stabilized with training and hiring was showing measurable trends over a period of time, solid growth and commitment from UAL will have to be a thing in order to continue attracting and retaining pilots.
What you say is makes perfect sense. On paper. Realistically though, it might play out a little less favorably for all parties interested.
Those are the practical limitations of any business plan. Awarding the 550s to us is a bridge too far for the training department AND would still saddle us with a THIRD aircraft type, adding complexity to the operation.
And in the mean time it would not permit us to park the crappy 200s as quickly as we’re parking them because we’d have to wait for 550 deliveries.
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