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Old 05-10-2020 | 08:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Itsajob
Only a handful of people took the COLAs.
OK, if you call just over 100 a handful. Still though, no accounting breakdown of how the money is being spent. People are just supposed to believe them when they say 75%? And if this is the case, why aren't others doing the same thing, both at the regional and major level. ExpressJet management took forever to negotiate letter 2 stuff, in fact, they delayed it for well over a year. But when the elevator runs the other direction they are quick to act.
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Old 05-10-2020 | 08:10 AM
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Originally Posted by piloto2
OK, if you call just over 100 a handful. Still though, no accounting breakdown of how the money is being spent. People are just supposed to believe them when they say 75%? And if this is the case, why aren't others doing the same thing, both at the regional and major level. ExpressJet management took forever to negotiate letter 2 stuff, in fact, they delayed it for well over a year. But when the elevator runs the other direction they are quick to act.
100 out of 13000 is a drop in the bucket
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Old 05-10-2020 | 08:11 AM
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Originally Posted by tonsterboy5
Now the company is trying to figure out how to pay other overhead and they are hoping to the can have some left over cares money after they pay everyone to use for other things. Not “legal” but with some simple accounting tricks it’s very easy to do
That's the most likely explanation of what's going on. And nobody is asking questions or holding their feet to the fire! Especially the MEC! It's amazing how their tone has shifted in the course of just a few months.
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Old 05-10-2020 | 08:15 AM
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Originally Posted by flynd94
100 out of 13000 is a drop in the bucket
The 100 was just pilots. Not sure about the other groups. And where are you getting 13,000 from?
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Old 05-10-2020 | 08:40 AM
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Originally Posted by piloto2
The 100 was just pilots. Not sure about the other groups. And where are you getting 13,000 from?
I think flynd forgot he is posting in an Expressjet thread.
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Old 05-10-2020 | 02:52 PM
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Originally Posted by piloto2
OK, if you call just over 100 a handful. Still though, no accounting breakdown of how the money is being spent. People are just supposed to believe them when they say 75%? And if this is the case, why aren't others doing the same thing, both at the regional and major level. ExpressJet management took forever to negotiate letter 2 stuff, in fact, they delayed it for well over a year. But when the elevator runs the other direction they are quick to act.

This hurts us all but dang what dont you guys understand. This is a privately owned business. They don’t have to show us anything or explain anything to us ever. They are in business for one thing only. To make money. Not to pander to us pilots. If they are not in business and making money why would they do it. Sorry it just amazes me pilots think they have a right to information.


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Old 05-10-2020 | 09:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Itsajob
Has there been an official statement regarding XJT getting any of the government cheese? Grant, loan, both, neither? All that I have found is old reports saying that they are having discussions with the govt.
As of 5/9, statement was "still having discussions", but expecting to get the $$ within a week.
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Old 05-10-2020 | 09:37 PM
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Originally Posted by dovic91
How do you know they only got 75%?
Any airline that got CARES grants got a sum based off of 75% of last years payroll expense. I’d link a reference, but you can look it up yourself.
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Old 05-11-2020 | 08:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Cspal
This is a privately owned business. They don’t have to show us anything or explain anything to us ever.
Sorry, but when they take taxpayer money in the form of a loan or grant, they do owe us an explanation!!!
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Old 05-11-2020 | 09:22 AM
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Originally Posted by piloto2
Sorry, but when they take taxpayer money in the form of a loan or grant, they do owe us an explanation!!!
All this talk about whether XJT mgmt. is doing or will do the "right thing" if they get CARES money...…….. I don't really care, quite frankly. I just want XJT to survive! Please, just do whatever it takes to survive and live to fight another day.

If there's a big furlough, but XJT survives, then we (jr FO's in my case) have a decent chance of someday come back to flying jets. If XJT fails, then we are in this huge group of out of work pilots (including all the senior XJT people), the vast majority of whom have more time/experience, competing for very few openings, starting over at the bottom of some list if we are very lucky.
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