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Old 12-13-2013, 01:28 PM
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Financial analysis of airlines. pretty good website.

Airline Financial Analysis - Audries Aircraft Analysis

They are padding their wallets, while ours get thinner
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Old 12-14-2013, 04:35 PM
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"Compass Road Shows Detail Contract Enhancements

The Compass Airlines MEC and Negotiating Committee have hit the road to detail the terms of their new six-year contract, holding a series of road shows in MSP, SLC, and DTW this week and next. At the shows, negotiators are explaining how they were able to bargain for significant gains in their contract language despite negotiating in a concessionary environment for regional carriers overall.

In addition to pay raises, the new contract includes increases above the industry average in vacation day pay and minimum-day credit. The agreement also preserves an industry-leading 401(k) vesting schedule and has numerous scheduling improvements, including advancements in minimum days off, better reserve rules, and an agreement to implement a long-call reserve system.

“We were able to accomplish all this in just over one year from the amendable date of our previous contract by using a mediation/arbitration process,” said CPZ MEC chairman Capt. Dan Schultz. “The Compass MEC would like to extend its gratitude for the dedicated effort put forth by our entire negotiating team.”

Because the final items of the CBA were determined by an arbitrator, the CPZ contract did not require ratification. It becomes amendable in 2020."

I do not see any reason for anyone to accept anything less than contract improvements at this point.
Do you realize that the Compass improvements are still less than what is in this TA?
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Old 12-14-2013, 08:26 PM
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Do you realize that the Compass improvements are still less than what is in this TA?
Even if that is correct, the issues remaining are that we are significantly underpaid to do what we do, and that our quality of life is taking a significant hit. I can not be a part of making this company a worse place to work for those coming behind me.
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Old 12-16-2013, 03:00 PM
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This management conference call is an embarrassment. A large number of fellow pilots are depressingly pathetic. This thing is going to pass.

Thank you to all of the "yes" voters for taking food off my table. At least you tried in vain to "save" your $hitty airline. Us junior guys would have been better off furloughed than such a pay cut that we have to choose between paying rent and buying groceries.
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Old 12-16-2013, 03:37 PM
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This management conference call is an embarrassment. A large number of fellow pilots are depressingly pathetic. This thing is going to pass.

Thank you to all of the "yes" voters for taking food off my table. At least you tried in vain to "save" your $hitty airline. Us junior guys would have been better off furloughed than such a pay cut that we have to choose between paying rent and buying groceries.
Agreed. You have to be fool to vote YES for this TA. The conference call only confirms how feeble-minded pilots can be.
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Old 12-16-2013, 05:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Bartender View Post
Do you realize that the Compass improvements are still less than what is in this TA?
In exactly what areas? Vacation low is an outlier, and you guys lost your rigs for everything except CDOs.
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Old 12-17-2013, 06:54 AM
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Originally Posted by HVAA View Post
Agreed. You have to be fool to vote YES for this TA. The conference call only confirms how feeble-minded pilots can be.
I had the same impression from some of the early callers. I listened all the way to the end while I was making dinner and seemed like the gloves came off a little more from some of the later callers. Also guys, when you're on a conference call like this, try and keep a handle on the dog/wife/kids/mouth breathing. That's what the mute button is for.

What I got most from the call is that basically management does not see this as a concessionary contract at all (It's industry leading! Just ask 'em!) nor do they think it will have a major impact on our quality of life. Give me a break guys. To me, it seems like they want us to subsidize the cost of Part 117 with our wallets. No thanks.
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Old 12-17-2013, 05:28 PM
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Originally Posted by atrdriver View Post
This management conference call is an embarrassment. A large number of fellow pilots are depressingly pathetic. This thing is going to pass.

paging Clifton...



Thank you to all of the "yes" voters for taking food off my table. At least you tried in vain to "save" your $hitty airline. Us junior guys would have been better off furloughed than such a pay cut that we have to choose between paying rent and buying groceries.
I am still optimistic this TA will fail. I've talked to some solid no votes from the most surprising of people.
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Old 12-18-2013, 05:44 AM
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I am still optimistic this TA will fail. I've talked to some solid no votes from the most surprising of people.
Same here- and one of best no rants I've heard so far came from a captain in the top 5 on the CRJ seniority list.
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Old 12-18-2013, 06:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Trip7 View Post
If you're stuck at a stagnant regional with no hope of upgrade, it's a very good idea to chase upgrade. Ask the ex Comair guys that came here and the ones that went to TSA.
I would not chase an upgrade at TSA. I think the gravy train has stopped here for now. The future here is bleak with our 50 seaters. Not to mention the low QOL that you will have on reserve as senior FOs upgrade over you assuming you even upgrade quick. Seems like Mesa and psa are better deals now.
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