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12-16-2013 | 03:37 PM

#4831

HVAA

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Originally Posted by atrdriver

This management conference call is an embarrassment. A large number of fellow pilots are depressingly pathetic. This thing is going to pass.

Thank you to all of the "yes" voters for taking food off my table. At least you tried in vain to "save" your $hitty airline. Us junior guys would have been better off furloughed than such a pay cut that we have to choose between paying rent and buying groceries.

Agreed. You have to be fool to vote YES for this TA. The conference call only confirms how feeble-minded pilots can be.

12-16-2013 | 05:01 PM

#4832

paxhauler85

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Originally Posted by Bartender

Do you realize that the Compass improvements are still less than what is in this TA?

In exactly what areas? Vacation low is an outlier, and you guys lost your rigs for everything except CDOs.

12-17-2013 | 06:54 AM

#4833

freezingflyboy

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From: 7ER B...whatever that means.

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Originally Posted by HVAA

Agreed. You have to be fool to vote YES for this TA. The conference call only confirms how feeble-minded pilots can be.

I had the same impression from some of the early callers. I listened all the way to the end while I was making dinner and seemed like the gloves came off a little more from some of the later callers. Also guys, when you're on a conference call like this, try and keep a handle on the dog/wife/kids/mouth breathing. That's what the mute button is for.

What I got most from the call is that basically management does not see this as a concessionary contract at all (It's industry leading! Just ask 'em!

) nor do they think it will have a major impact on our quality of life. Give me a break guys. To me, it seems like they want us to subsidize the cost of Part 117 with our wallets. No thanks.

12-17-2013 | 05:28 PM

#4834

unit monster

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Quote:

Originally Posted by atrdriver

This management conference call is an embarrassment. A large number of fellow pilots are depressingly pathetic. This thing is going to pass.

paging Clifton...

Thank you to all of the "yes" voters for taking food off my table. At least you tried in vain to "save" your $hitty airline. Us junior guys would have been better off furloughed than such a pay cut that we have to choose between paying rent and buying groceries.

I am still optimistic this TA will fail. I've talked to some solid no votes from the most surprising of people.

12-18-2013 | 05:44 AM

#4835

Uzzi

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From: DAL 73B

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Originally Posted by unit monster

I am still optimistic this TA will fail. I've talked to some solid no votes from the most surprising of people.

Same here- and one of best no rants I've heard so far came from a captain in the top 5 on the CRJ seniority list.

12-18-2013 | 06:41 AM

#4836

minimwage4

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From: Embraer Systems Analyst

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Originally Posted by Trip7

If you're stuck at a stagnant regional with no hope of upgrade, it's a very good idea to chase upgrade. Ask the ex Comair guys that came here and the ones that went to TSA.

I would not chase an upgrade at TSA. I think the gravy train has stopped here for now. The future here is bleak with our 50 seaters. Not to mention the low QOL that you will have on reserve as senior FOs upgrade over you assuming you even upgrade quick. Seems like Mesa and psa are better deals now.

12-18-2013 | 06:49 AM

#4837

MrMustache

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Originally Posted by minimwage4

Don't tell Mr. Kat that!

12-22-2013 | 05:48 AM

#4838

Kilroy

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I have a good feeling the TA is going to fail huge...there is an upside to the future. Someone stated that jerry was going to or has already struck a deal with emirates as a codeshare partner. If this is true, which I'm not saying it is, that could be great news. Then we can become more independent and sale our own seats as well as fly bigger aircraft which in turn will pay us more. One thing for sure we have to get rid of the RJ's. Cost per seat mile is way to high...