Why would you advocate for new hire pilots to go somewhere with one of the worst contracts? (yes I've read it). In order for supply and demand to work and the working conditions at the regionals to improve, new hires MUST choose a regional based on QOL and pay.

Chasing an upgrade at a 3rd tier regional will only prove to management that we care nothing about working conditions and only upgrade time.

I hope for the industry's sake, PSA will be unable to fill classes and be forced to improve their contract.

I'm a new 121 pilot who chose xjt not based on upgrade time, new planes, or signing bonus. All I wanted was industry leading QOL. LXJTs contract gave me that.

 

And now you are an FO for the better part of the next decade.

My QoL at PSA is fantastic....that's right, fantastic. I am only a mid level FO. I choose my own schedule and I credit 90+ hours a month with 16+ days off. If I wanted to I could do 18-19 days off right around guarantee or 11 days off with 130+ hours credit.

My QoL starts and ends with time off, and then money, in that order. Scheduling is not able to touch my awarded days off.....EVER.

Just about a year ago PSA was applauded throughout the regionals for finally getting a pretty good contract after 5+ years of negotiating.

Now we have "one of the worst contracts out there"????? Our recent TA changed TWO ITEMS in our contract: Pay caps, and a bump in insurance costs. That's all. The insurance increase will cost me 32 dollars a year.

I guarantee I will make more at our(PSA's) 4 year FO cap of 41/hr than you will at your 8 year cap of 44 or 47. O, and I'll have more days off and every holiday/family event/birthday party/night of drinking with friends off than you. Which holidays did you work in 2013? Because I worked none of them.

Did you forget to read the scheduling section of our contract?

Tell me again what makes PSA a "3rd tier regional".

None of this is an excuse to vote in concessions as we would have had all that good stuff without receiving the 12/4 caps but you people are always telling us how "You read our contract it's terrible" when in reality you don't know what you are talking about and hate on PSA because everyone tells you to hate PSA, or GoJet, or whoever.

 

You think PSA has a better contract than xjt? Perhaps you should read ours. Funny how defensive the PSA pilots are online. I don't have to argue about my QOL as an FO because anybody with half of a brain can compare the two contracts and see for themselves.

 

Well first of all nowhere in any of my posts on this thread did I say that Our contract was better than XJT's.

I said I can make more money than you, and have more time off. And that, to me, is the very definition of QoL.

Humor me though and tell me why your contract is vastly superior to ours. I guess I only have 1/4th of a brain.

Start with "rolled days off" please.

 

I'm bottom of the list and get 20-22 days off a month if all I want is guarantee. If I want only 12 days off, I can make 120+. With the 200% being offered, I could make it it to 150 hours if I really wanted. Obviously, not everyone at the company is getting this. I know my contract and work my schedule around. I'm sure you do the same. But I'm sure not all your coworkers are in the same QOL as you are.

The majority of our QOL issues aren't a contract issue. United has decided to not care about our QOL and that means XJT management won't care as much. But at the end of the day, all of our pilots still have to get their 401K defined contributions. If we lose our medical, well it's not all as bad as it could be for us. I can assure you that if we'd voted yes to our TA, our QOL would be not be better. It would've made it much worse in far more cases than it being better.

I have no problem with the content of your contract. What my concern was your pilot group's decision that now affects us all. Eagle is having a harder time now because of that vote. It set the precedence of taking concessions for airplanes. Our TA's content was influenced by that vote too.

 

2.5 Year FO at ASA.....made $59k last year. Had All holidays off, and I was in the bottom 30% in my base. What did you make?

 

Soo you credited over 115hr every month?

 

Apples to oranges....Our new contract was not in effect for the entirety of last year. I am on pace for slightly less than that this year. With a very large bump in days off..... +5 or more per month.

So our pay is about the same.....what else makes your contract so much better than ours?

It looks like your pay rate at 2.5 years would be 39 for the bigger airplane. That's 126 hours per month. How many days off are you getting for that credit?

 

Most definitely added Per Diem into the 59k and worked max hours every month. ASA barely had any premium pay open time trips last year.

 

Been a totally different story this year!