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#5631
Capt. Tony, here is the rest of the story. Former XJT MEC Chair CG worked very closely with the CAL MEC during their seniority list integration. In fact CG was present during the arbitration award. LXJT is going to employ the same tactics that CAL employed by trying to delay SLI by delaying contract negotiations. Their hope is that the LASA side will retire lots of 50 seaters by the time this wraps up and they will get a snap shot at DOS instead of Date of acquisition and this will help them with an arbitrated award.
Only problem is that the company is willing to give us money right now and take advantage of some opportunities right now. LXJT pilots need to ask their reps why Chris is still involved and still stalling things.
Only problem is that the company is willing to give us money right now and take advantage of some opportunities right now. LXJT pilots need to ask their reps why Chris is still involved and still stalling things.
#5632
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The ASA mec voted unanimously in favor of the last TA and the company was spewing garbage about 3 yrs until another TA would be presented... both are running short on credibility. The local XJT mec is the only one that had any no votes or voices of reason last time around. If the company didn't want a delay than they should have been more realistic the first time around. The pilots are gaining leverage by the day and the Skywest board of directors are not happy with amateur hour in Atlanta. I hope both MECs can be on the same page going forward but the company needs to make amends for the used car salesman tactics and lies. Great that they want to be serious ... after 4 yrs. Don't let management scrambling to soften their woopsie tear apart the two MEcs.
#5633
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Position: EMB 145 CPT
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Originally Posted by Captain Tony
It is true. The company is ready to throw money on the table, the L-ASA side is ready to take it, and he L-XJT side has stalled negotiations until mid June. The L-XJT pilots need to ask their leaders why they need authorization from an MEC in recall to bargain for contract advances. Everyday that goes by is a missed opportunity. Tick tock tick tock. It's almost like they have ulterior motives for stalling this thing. As if they think it will give them an advantage in the SLI. That strategy didn't work for CAL, but hey what was that law of insanity Einstein came up with?
Capt. Tony, here is the rest of the story. Former XJT MEC Chair CG worked very closely with the CAL MEC during their seniority list integration. In fact CG was present during the arbitration award. LXJT is going to employ the same tactics that CAL employed by trying to delay SLI by delaying contract negotiations. Their hope is that the LASA side will retire lots of 50 seaters by the time this wraps up and they will get a snap shot at DOS instead of Date of acquisition and this will help them with an arbitrated award.
Only problem is that the company is willing to give us money right now and take advantage of some opportunities right now. LXJT pilots need to ask their reps why Chris is still involved and still stalling things.
Originally Posted by Captain Tony
It is true. The company is ready to throw money on the table, the L-ASA side is ready to take it, and he L-XJT side has stalled negotiations until mid June. The L-XJT pilots need to ask their leaders why they need authorization from an MEC in recall to bargain for contract advances. Everyday that goes by is a missed opportunity. Tick tock tick tock. It's almost like they have ulterior motives for stalling this thing. As if they think it will give them an advantage in the SLI. That strategy didn't work for CAL, but hey what was that law of insanity Einstein came up with?
Capt. Tony, here is the rest of the story. Former XJT MEC Chair CG worked very closely with the CAL MEC during their seniority list integration. In fact CG was present during the arbitration award. LXJT is going to employ the same tactics that CAL employed by trying to delay SLI by delaying contract negotiations. Their hope is that the LASA side will retire lots of 50 seaters by the time this wraps up and they will get a snap shot at DOS instead of Date of acquisition and this will help them with an arbitrated award.
Only problem is that the company is willing to give us money right now and take advantage of some opportunities right now. LXJT pilots need to ask their reps why Chris is still involved and still stalling things.
#5638
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Capt. Tony, here is the rest of the story. Former XJT MEC Chair CG worked very closely with the CAL MEC during their seniority list integration. In fact CG was present during the arbitration award. LXJT is going to employ the same tactics that CAL employed by trying to delay SLI by delaying contract negotiations. Their hope is that the LASA side will retire lots of 50 seaters by the time this wraps up and they will get a snap shot at DOS instead of Date of acquisition and this will help them with an arbitrated award.
Only problem is that the company is willing to give us money right now and take advantage of some opportunities right now. LXJT pilots need to ask their reps why Chris is still involved and still stalling things.
Only problem is that the company is willing to give us money right now and take advantage of some opportunities right now. LXJT pilots need to ask their reps why Chris is still involved and still stalling things.
I seem to remember a certain person holding up neogtiations for the better part of a year over the "line in the sand" memo.
Rushing only benefits the company. Also when we started this process the company stated that the check book was open. I am happy that we are taking it slow/deliberate pace. All you are doing by making these posts is driving a wedge between the two pilot groups. Are you a mgmt schill? Or a lifer afraid for your job?
#5639
The ASA mec voted unanimously in favor of the last TA and the company was spewing garbage about 3 yrs until another TA would be presented... both are running short on credibility. The local XJT mec is the only one that had any no votes or voices of reason last time around. If the company didn't want a delay than they should have been more realistic the first time around. The pilots are gaining leverage by the day and the Skywest board of directors are not happy with amateur hour in Atlanta. I hope both MECs can be on the same page going forward but the company needs to make amends for the used car salesman tactics and lies. Great that they want to be serious ... after 4 yrs. Don't let management scrambling to soften their woopsie tear apart the two MEcs.
And you're right, the BOD is losing patience. Every day we actually lose leverage because our competitors get closer to getting their act together or we're one day closer to missing the deadline to bid, which puts us right back on the shrink to death in 5 years plan. I don't know why you guys think we will have increasing leverage.
#5640
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Originally Posted by newarkblows
The ASA mec voted unanimously in favor of the last TA and the company was spewing garbage about 3 yrs until another TA would be presented... both are running short on credibility. The local XJT mec is the only one that had any no votes or voices of reason last time around. If the company didn't want a delay than they should have been more realistic the first time around. The pilots are gaining leverage by the day and the Skywest board of directors are not happy with amateur hour in Atlanta. I hope both MECs can be on the same page going forward but the company needs to make amends for the used car salesman tactics and lies. Great that they want to be serious ... after 4 yrs. Don't let management scrambling to soften their woopsie tear apart the two MEcs.
The ASA MEC voted unanimously to let the pilot group have a say. They voted to put it out for a vote, not a vote of approval. If you're going to be a critic, then at least get your facts straight.
And you're right, the BOD is losing patience. Every day we actually lose leverage because our competitors get closer to getting their act together or we're one day closer to missing the deadline to bid, which puts us right back on the shrink to death in 5 years plan. I don't know why you guys think we will have increasing leverage.
Originally Posted by newarkblows
The ASA mec voted unanimously in favor of the last TA and the company was spewing garbage about 3 yrs until another TA would be presented... both are running short on credibility. The local XJT mec is the only one that had any no votes or voices of reason last time around. If the company didn't want a delay than they should have been more realistic the first time around. The pilots are gaining leverage by the day and the Skywest board of directors are not happy with amateur hour in Atlanta. I hope both MECs can be on the same page going forward but the company needs to make amends for the used car salesman tactics and lies. Great that they want to be serious ... after 4 yrs. Don't let management scrambling to soften their woopsie tear apart the two MEcs.
The ASA MEC voted unanimously to let the pilot group have a say. They voted to put it out for a vote, not a vote of approval. If you're going to be a critic, then at least get your facts straight.
And you're right, the BOD is losing patience. Every day we actually lose leverage because our competitors get closer to getting their act together or we're one day closer to missing the deadline to bid, which puts us right back on the shrink to death in 5 years plan. I don't know why you guys think we will have increasing leverage.
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