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08-06-2014 | 11:13 AM

#6871

motormadness

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Originally Posted by air101

They said that a JCBA will not improve XJT's financial standing and don't see that as a solution to the problems any longer.

Interesting. I wonder if they are implying that the root behind the financial performance lies in the lowly bid CPA's that were negotiated on behalf of SkyWest Inc., and the poor operational performances seen over and over again by XJT?

08-06-2014 | 12:24 PM

#6872

johnso29

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From: B757/767

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Originally Posted by NVUS

Oh, I'm sorry, I forgot you know everything. Then please enlighten all of us...

How does SkyWest do all that pro-rate flying for United without a codeshare agreement?

How does SkyWest do all that pro-rate flying for Delta without a codeshare agreement?

How does SkyWest do all that pro-rate flying for American without a codeshare agreement?

Probabaly because the FFD contracts offset the losses. Don't become snarky with me simply because I corrected you earlier.

08-06-2014 | 12:38 PM

#6873

AlaskaBound

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Originally Posted by johnso29

Probabaly because the FFD contracts offset the losses. Don't become snarky with me simply because I corrected you earlier.

He's snarky with everyone. He hates everyone.

08-06-2014 | 12:40 PM

#6874

ross9238

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Originally Posted by Wynncore

it only makes sense for them to furlough L-XJT pilots and offer them "preferred interviews" at Skywest as there will be lots of qualified pilots on the street...not to mention, the majors aren't hiring FO's in droves right now, and probably won't for another 2 years, so where are these guys going to go?...the majority will go to SKYW if this scenario plays out.

I'm sorry but it's a bit presumptuous to think that everyone furloughed will jump at the chance to go to Skywest. If it were me, I would go anywhere else except for Skywest. There are plenty of regionals hiring and Skywest is not the only option.

08-06-2014 | 01:54 PM

#6875

MasterOfPuppets

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From: 787

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Originally Posted by Bravo3

That's a lot of planes to be parked in such a short time frame. That amount of capacity loss goes where? Can anybody help me out here and answer this question, plz.

Embraer can't build them that fast.

United's reputation will only go up with the parking of all those 50 seaters. The days of frequency are going by the wayside and now its all about making more money. Rumor has it UA is keeping 14 757 slated for retirement and we are taking delivery of 3 737 a month. I have no idea how many 175 we are taking a month but there is at least 1 probably 2-3.

Everything gets up gauged and frequency goes down. Passengers get bigger more comfortable aircraft and I doubt they will miss the round trip that goes away.

08-06-2014 | 01:55 PM

#6876

Nevets

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Originally Posted by motormadness

This is what everyone of us xjt pilots have been saying for YEARS! It's not the labor costs. CC mentioned that when answering questions.

08-06-2014 | 02:32 PM

#6877

Jefferson

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Originally Posted by MasterOfPuppets

United's reputation will only go up with the parking of all those 50 seaters.

Yep, parking those 50 seaters should be the thing that busts up the statistical tie at the bottom of the JD Powers satisfaction survey.... not improving the crap ass customer service or anything like that... based on that logic, why not park all the planes... your customers would love you then.

2014 North America Airline Satisfaction Study | J.D. Power

http://www.jdpower.com/press-release...sfaction-study

http://www.jdpower.com/press-release...sfaction-study

08-06-2014 | 04:13 PM

#6878

Wynncore

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Originally Posted by Nevets

This is what everyone of us xjt pilots have been saying for YEARS! It's not the labor costs. CC mentioned that when answering questions.

It's never the pilot labor costs that make or break an operation, you're 100% correct, it is an easy scape goat though. Ref: Comair. Delta could have kept them around with pocket change, but you know how Delta works.

In regards to the furlough speculation I wrote, looking back on it I probably shouldn't have written it even though I was speculating, I apologize if I made anyone mad. I really don't want anyone to get furloughed as that is a living Hell starting over, especially at a regional. I'm just afraid that could occur with the number of 145s coming offline with the addition of E175s on the SKYW side, assuming a JCBA does not come to fruition anytime soon.

Some positives to take away from the call though...

08-06-2014 | 04:43 PM

#6879

MasterOfPuppets

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Originally Posted by Jefferson

Yep, parking those 50 seaters should be the thing that busts up the statistical tie at the bottom of the JD Powers satisfaction survey.... not improving the crap ass customer service or anything like that... based on that logic, why not park all the planes... your customers would love you then.

2014 North America Airline Satisfaction Study | J.D. Power

2013 North America Airline Satisfaction Study | J.D. Power

2012 North America Airline Satisfaction Study | J.D. Power

Well aren't you a ray of sunshine......

I didn't say parking the 50 seaters would win us awards in customer satisfaction, but it sure isn't going to make our numbers worse.

The 50 seater is the worst jet ever introduced into service and they can't die fast enough.