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Old 12-31-2012 | 05:22 AM
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Originally Posted by spudskier
Nope, DAL basicaly facilitated the move of the 200s to AA. It was to Everyone's benefit
Tell that to the guys that were displaced out of LA!
Old 12-31-2012 | 05:28 AM
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Tell that to the guys that were displaced out of LA!
I think we all know that the people in LA were going to be displaced no matter what. That was a decision by AA. Understanding that fact, moving the 10 200s was a benefit to all involved.
Old 12-31-2012 | 06:08 AM
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Originally Posted by AtlCSIP
I think we all know that the people in LA were going to be displaced no matter what. That was a decision by AA. Understanding that fact, moving the 10 200s was a benefit to all involved.
Not necessarily. I don't blame a single pilot from any carrier that flies routes formerly flown by another regional. That's a big problem, but it's all management's fault. Say you are a DTW based CRJ-200 ASA FO, live in base and DL shuffles that flying to the New Eagle who flies the EMB-145 on the same routes. You then have to commute to ATL and while you listen to Eaglets say that DL was going to shutter the ASA DTW base anyway and displace. It's a whole different story then.
Old 12-31-2012 | 06:53 AM
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My apologies. I left out the AE pilots who were displaced. That sucks. I've been through my fair share of bases and never been able to live in base so it doesn't readily occur to me what the LAX people are dealing with.

The positive way to look at it then I guess is that AE did not furlough. If it makes you feel any better I am in no way benefiting from the new AE flying that Xjet is picking up. (not upgrading, going to DFW, etc...)

I also never blame a pilot for flying a different regional's previous routes... just the whipsaw game of the regional world. It would be better to work for an airline that filled it's own seats, determined it's own routes, capacities, etc... maybe some day.
Old 12-31-2012 | 10:48 AM
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Originally Posted by emb145
Not necessarily. I don't blame a single pilot from any carrier that flies routes formerly flown by another regional. That's a big problem, but it's all management's fault. Say you are a DTW based CRJ-200 ASA FO, live in base and DL shuffles that flying to the New Eagle who flies the EMB-145 on the same routes. You then have to commute to ATL and while you listen to Eaglets say that DL was going to shutter the ASA DTW base anyway and displace. It's a whole different story then.
This right here is the number one problem amongst pilots in my eyes. It's also one of the major reasons the XJet and ASA pilot groups may never jointly create a collective bargaining agreement. At least not on their own terms.

No one wants to take a moment and walk in someone else's shoes. "It's all about me" seems to be a common view these days. I always tell guys to think about what they are doing before they do it. You'd be really surprised at what kind of effect you have on other people. And it's not always good.
Old 12-31-2012 | 11:03 AM
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Originally Posted by emb145
Not necessarily. I don't blame a single pilot from any carrier that flies routes formerly flown by another regional. That's a big problem, but it's all management's fault. Say you are a DTW based CRJ-200 ASA FO, live in base and DL shuffles that flying to the New Eagle who flies the EMB-145 on the same routes. You then have to commute to ATL and while you listen to Eaglets say that DL was going to shutter the ASA DTW base anyway and displace. It's a whole different story then.
I respectfully disagree. I appreciate your opinion, but the truth is that we all know what the game is and continue to play it because we want to fly for a living and we want a shot at a major. If that were not the case, many of us might quit, but we don't. If DTW closes, most of those folks will go back to commuting, and they know it and accept it. It's the game we choose to play every time we show up for work. Until it sucks real bad, or until the chance at a major goes away, we'll keep playing.
Old 01-01-2013 | 12:50 PM
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Originally Posted by emb145
Not necessarily. I don't blame a single pilot from any carrier that flies routes formerly flown by another regional. That's a big problem, but it's all management's fault. Say you are a DTW based CRJ-200 ASA FO, live in base and DL shuffles that flying to the New Eagle who flies the EMB-145 on the same routes. You then have to commute to ATL and while you listen to Eaglets say that DL was going to shutter the ASA DTW base anyway and displace. It's a whole different story then.
ASA doesn't have a DTW -200 base. Way to research before opining. Thank God for all these internet "experts"...
Old 01-01-2013 | 01:24 PM
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ASA doesn't have a DTW -200 base. Way to research before opining. Thank God for all these internet "experts"...
Coming from the guy that told ASA applicants not to read the gouge online because it was "cheating." I think you can figure out what he was saying but of course that would require a little common sense. In such a small world you have made yourself look very narrow minded and petty on both our company forum and here.
Old 01-01-2013 | 04:44 PM
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Any tips for things to review for the Knowledge test for the interview.
Old 01-01-2013 | 04:58 PM
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I heard there is a good gouge on Will Fly For food.
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