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Old 01-01-2013 | 06:02 PM
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How did anyone make it through an interview before APC? Or the internet? Oh wait, they already had enough experience to bypass the rote memorization of a gouge and answer the question on the knowledge test.

Old 01-02-2013 | 03:21 AM
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Originally Posted by afterburn81
How did anyone make it through an interview before APC? Or the internet? Oh wait, they already had enough experience to bypass the rote memorization of a gouge and answer the question on the knowledge test.



Thanks. For the lack of experience I have, Ill just wing it then.

I have read the willflyforfood, aviationinterviews, ect... just looking for more insight.
Old 01-02-2013 | 04:37 AM
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Coming from the guy that told ASA applicants not to read the gouge online because it was "cheating." I think you can figure out what he was saying but of course that would require a little common sense. In such a small world you have made yourself look very narrow minded and petty on both our company forum and here.
I don't recall that, and can't imagine why I would have said that. How about a quote?
Old 01-02-2013 | 05:35 AM
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I don't recall that, and can't imagine why I would have said that. How about a quote?
It was the same thread that you called working at ASA the "big leagues" ... remember it now? I probably would have tried to block it mentally too.

Our MEC just put out an email explaining how the ASA MEC has said that any contract without flightline in it will not pass their vote. They have done this despite the two other parties involved explaining that flightline is not a reasonable request. The company would have it but with major sections of the current ASA scheduling section rewritten because it has not come close to its projected cost savings. Vacation low would be gone and the end product is an unknown quantity. Our MEC has researched pbs systems and found one that resolves almost every parties issues and yet because it does not have a flightline name it is not even an option. The ASA MEC has done next to zero research, is sticking their head in the sand hoping to save their current flightline system and workrules (management said no), and is unwilling to negotiate on anything that negatively affects the top 5% of pilots for the betterment of 95% of the combined pilot group.

So who is unwilling to negotiate now? Oh that was just the ASA MEC's trolls on here spouting lies. Keep up the smear campaign
Old 01-02-2013 | 06:05 AM
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It was telling a few months ago when the PBS vendor sent out that email about how the ASA side didn't bother to speak to them and how they were viewed as unprofessional. Like I said last month, a friend in management said the company has had enough of their little sideshow. If we dug our heels on line bidding like ASA is doing with flight line we'd be called every name in the book.
Old 01-02-2013 | 02:37 PM
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The silence from the ASA trolls is deafening ever since that blastmail came out.
Old 01-02-2013 | 03:16 PM
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The silence from the ASA trolls is deafening ever since that blastmail came out.
ASA trolls. Ha.

Funny how you think this is such a huge battle, but in reality it's just a dozen people on some damn interweb forums measuring their d***s.
Old 01-02-2013 | 04:05 PM
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Originally Posted by newarkblows
It was the same thread that you called working at ASA the "big leagues" ... remember it now? I probably would have tried to block it mentally too.

Our MEC just put out an email explaining how the ASA MEC has said that any contract without flightline in it will not pass their vote. They have done this despite the two other parties involved explaining that flightline is not a reasonable request. The company would have it but with major sections of the current ASA scheduling section rewritten because it has not come close to its projected cost savings. Vacation low would be gone and the end product is an unknown quantity. Our MEC has researched pbs systems and found one that resolves almost every parties issues and yet because it does not have a flightline name it is not even an option. The ASA MEC has done next to zero research, is sticking their head in the sand hoping to save their current flightline system and workrules (management said no), and is unwilling to negotiate on anything that negatively affects the top 5% of pilots for the betterment of 95% of the combined pilot group.

So who is unwilling to negotiate now? Oh that was just the ASA MEC's trolls on here spouting lies. Keep up the smear campaign
So, the ASA MEC stated two major concerns about Smart Pref and made their concerns known as early as November of 2011. Those two concerns still remain and have been brushed off by the Smart Pref team. Can you name those concerns and what has been done to address them? Forgive us if we don't bite on the Smart Pref answer of 'it will work itself out in a live bidding environment'.

None of the ASA MEC members post here, so what lies are they spouting? I talk to my reps regularly and don't hear anywhere near the level of vitriol that you present or believe is present. I get frustration, but aren't you just stirring the pot more? The ASA pilot group likes Flightline so why shouldn't our MEC represent our interests?

So, you'll probably miss this and bite on the above paragraphs, but I like the idea of Smart Pref - I would like to see it work. My question is, how is it working out?
Old 01-02-2013 | 04:17 PM
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Originally Posted by gtechpilot
So, the ASA MEC stated two major concerns about Smart Pref and made their concerns known as early as November of 2011. Those two concerns still remain and have been brushed off by the Smart Pref team. Can you name those concerns and what has been done to address them?
Can you elaborate on these concerns? I'm just curious. Seems like unless you are on a first name basis with a rep or march your butt up there to the office and demand info, you are kind of in the dark on everything.

I get more info from this forum than from the MEC. Of course I believe about 8% of it but it's still more.
Old 01-02-2013 | 04:22 PM
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Originally Posted by gtechpilot
So, the ASA MEC stated two major concerns about Smart Pref and made their concerns known as early as November of 2011. Those two concerns still remain and have been brushed off by the Smart Pref team. Can you name those concerns and what has been done to address them? Forgive us if we don't bite on the Smart Pref answer of 'it will work itself out in a live bidding environment'.
The ASA committee looked at examples on the SmartPref website without anything programed into it. The XJT committee told them this, but they stood there plugging their ears and yelling, "La la la la la".

Originally Posted by gtechpilot
None of the ASA MEC members post here, so what lies are they spouting? I talk to my reps regularly and don't hear anywhere near the level of vitriol that you present or believe is present. I get frustration, but aren't you just stirring the pot more? The ASA pilot group likes Flightline so why shouldn't our MEC represent our interests?
They don't post here, but their hired thugs and mouthpieces (Captain Tony and JoeMerchant) do. Might as well be reading the words right out of Mankameyer's mouth when they post.

Originally Posted by gtechpilot
So, you'll probably miss this and bite on the above paragraphs, but I like the idea of Smart Pref - I would like to see it work. My question is, how is it working out?
Good for you! Thank you for keeping an open mind. Reports out of EWR (where the first true test of the system for our Phase 2 bidding took place) are quite positive.
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