What's the Latest at ASA/Expressjet?
01-03-2013, 07:22 AM
#1891
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Originally Posted by PBSG
Special blast mail from the Union last night.
01-03-2013, 07:25 AM
#1892
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Originally Posted by afterburn81
Are these emails only people with that little Free Mason's symbol get?
I ain't seen nothin yet....
I ain't seen nothin yet....
Originally Posted by PBSG
Call your rep
01-03-2013, 07:32 AM
#1893
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Originally Posted by unit monster
nor I...
how about just posting the email. I get every other blast mail, why not this one..
how about just posting the email. I get every other blast mail, why not this one..
01-03-2013, 07:37 AM
#1894
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Originally Posted by Trip7
Whelp, it looks like management intends to place dual class large RJs on the L-XJT side. Looks like the ASA pilot group doesn't have the leverage they thought they had.
Originally Posted by ASAnotASAP
Are you L-XJET? If not, there's your answer.
01-03-2013, 07:44 AM
#1895
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The blast was only to the L-XJT pilots from their MEC. Not sure if it was in the same blast or an earlier one but they also told their pilot group that the ASA MEC has informed the company and the XJT MEC that they won't consider any PBS system other than Flight Line.
We got a Fiscal Cliff type situation here where if we don't come together everybody is screwed.
We got a Fiscal Cliff type situation here where if we don't come together everybody is screwed.
01-03-2013, 07:45 AM
#1896
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Originally Posted by unit monster:1322873
Originally Posted by Trip7
Whelp, it looks like management intends to place dual class large RJs on the L-XJT side. Looks like the ASA pilot group doesn't have the leverage they thought they had.
Originally Posted by ASAnotASAP
Are you L-XJET? If not, there's your answer.
01-03-2013, 07:52 AM
#1897
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Originally Posted by Trip7
We got a Fiscal Cliff type situation here where if we don't come together everybody is screwed.
01-03-2013, 08:00 AM
#1898
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[=newarkblows;1322216]It was the same thread that you called working at ASA the "big leagues" ... remember it now? I probably would have tried to block it mentally too.
Our MEC just put out an email explaining how the ASA MEC has said that any contract without flightline in it will not pass their vote. They have done this despite the two other parties involved explaining that flightline is not a reasonable request. The company would have it but with major sections of the current ASA scheduling section rewritten because it has not come close to its projected cost savings. Vacation low would be gone and the end product is an unknown quantity. Our MEC has researched pbs systems and found one that resolves almost every parties issues and yet because it does not have a flightline name it is not even an option. The ASA MEC has done next to zero research, is sticking their head in the sand hoping to save their current flightline system and workrules (management said no), and is unwilling to negotiate on anything that negatively affects the top 5% of pilots for the betterment of 95% of the combined pilot group.
So who is unwilling to negotiate now? Oh that was just the ASA MEC's trolls on here spouting lies. Keep up the smear campaign
Our MEC just put out an email explaining how the ASA MEC has said that any contract without flightline in it will not pass their vote. They have done this despite the two other parties involved explaining that flightline is not a reasonable request. The company would have it but with major sections of the current ASA scheduling section rewritten because it has not come close to its projected cost savings. Vacation low would be gone and the end product is an unknown quantity. Our MEC has researched pbs systems and found one that resolves almost every parties issues and yet because it does not have a flightline name it is not even an option. The ASA MEC has done next to zero research, is sticking their head in the sand hoping to save their current flightline system and workrules (management said no), and is unwilling to negotiate on anything that negatively affects the top 5% of pilots for the betterment of 95% of the combined pilot group.
So who is unwilling to negotiate now? Oh that was just the ASA MEC's trolls on here spouting lies. Keep up the smear campaign
As for the rest of your post, it is nothing but speculation and rumor. I haven't seen the email... go ahead and post it. Your MEC lies to you guys constantly, so why should I care what they tell you guys now? It wasn't long ago that their position was no PBS and 20% raises. They sold you out on that too, apparently.
Originally Posted by EMBFlyer
They don't post here, but their hired thugs and mouthpieces (Captain Tony and JoeMerchant) do. Might as well be reading the words right out of Mankameyer's mouth when they post.
Originally Posted by Jetlinker
When I say 'ASA Trolls,' I mean Joe Merchant and Captain Tony, not the entire ASA pilot group.
Originally Posted by IBPilot
I got superbored so I searched "gouge" and "cheating" or something......im guessing with 2 seconds of research this is what they are talking about?
[Originally Posted by Captain Tony
Exactly! Many of you will take this the wrong way, and so be it, but if you need to do major studying and "gouges" (whatever that is) to take an airline interview test with questions from the ATP written, then I'm sorry, but you're not ready for prime time!
When you end up in the right seat of a jet, you are not there to learn how to fly, you are there to assist the Captain and learn to be a Captain someday. You should already know how to fly and possess all of the required information. If you use the "gouges" and fake your way through the interview, you will be in for a rude awakening when you get to the line!
I'm not trying to be mean, I'm stating a fact. Captains are happy to help you learn the airline system, but it you don't know the basics we have little patience.
Exactly! Many of you will take this the wrong way, and so be it, but if you need to do major studying and "gouges" (whatever that is) to take an airline interview test with questions from the ATP written, then I'm sorry, but you're not ready for prime time!
When you end up in the right seat of a jet, you are not there to learn how to fly, you are there to assist the Captain and learn to be a Captain someday. You should already know how to fly and possess all of the required information. If you use the "gouges" and fake your way through the interview, you will be in for a rude awakening when you get to the line!
I'm not trying to be mean, I'm stating a fact. Captains are happy to help you learn the airline system, but it you don't know the basics we have little patience.
Originally Posted by Trip7
I found out this morning on FI
01-03-2013, 08:37 AM
#1899
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XJT MEC Alert
January 2, 2013
Earlier today, the Company notified XJT ALPA of its intent to seek opportunities in which to introduce larger, two-class aircraft into the legacy ExpressJet fleet under Section 26 of our collective bargaining agreement. This section provides for an expedited negotiation process to determine terms and conditions for any new aircraft placed under our current contract.
While legacy ASA already has rates established for this flying, legacy ExpressJet does not. Establishing these rates will allow legacy ExpressJet pilots to partake in the RFPs currently in the market.
At this point we have only received initial notice from the Company and we will provide more information as we receive it. We expect negotiations to commence next week and will keep you informed on our progress. Under Section 26, negotiations must be concluded within 60 days. Following that, the contract provides for 20 days of mediation and an expedited arbitration process to resolve any remaining disputed items.
January 2, 2013
Earlier today, the Company notified XJT ALPA of its intent to seek opportunities in which to introduce larger, two-class aircraft into the legacy ExpressJet fleet under Section 26 of our collective bargaining agreement. This section provides for an expedited negotiation process to determine terms and conditions for any new aircraft placed under our current contract.
While legacy ASA already has rates established for this flying, legacy ExpressJet does not. Establishing these rates will allow legacy ExpressJet pilots to partake in the RFPs currently in the market.
At this point we have only received initial notice from the Company and we will provide more information as we receive it. We expect negotiations to commence next week and will keep you informed on our progress. Under Section 26, negotiations must be concluded within 60 days. Following that, the contract provides for 20 days of mediation and an expedited arbitration process to resolve any remaining disputed items.
01-03-2013, 08:40 AM
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Originally Posted by PBSG
Special blast mail from the Union last night.
Originally Posted by Trip7
We got a Fiscal Cliff type situation here where if we don't come together everybody is screwed.
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