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Old 01-03-2013 | 07:12 AM
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Originally Posted by PBSG
Special blast mail from the Union last night.
Are these emails only people with that little Free Mason's symbol get?

I ain't seen nothin yet....
Old 01-03-2013 | 07:17 AM
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Originally Posted by afterburn81
Are these emails only people with that little Free Mason's symbol get?

I ain't seen nothin yet....
Call your rep
Old 01-03-2013 | 07:22 AM
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Originally Posted by PBSG
Special blast mail from the Union last night.
And what rates does XJT have for that size of a/c? Oh that's right they have to negotiate one so being a Section 6 negotiation, since it may affect the ASA side the LASA MEC must be involved. Look for Company to want cheap rates.
Old 01-03-2013 | 07:25 AM
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Originally Posted by afterburn81
Are these emails only people with that little Free Mason's symbol get?

I ain't seen nothin yet....
nor I...

Originally Posted by PBSG
Call your rep
how about just posting the email. I get every other blast mail, why not this one..
Old 01-03-2013 | 07:32 AM
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nor I...



how about just posting the email. I get every other blast mail, why not this one..
Are you L-XJET? If not, there's your answer.
Old 01-03-2013 | 07:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Trip7
Whelp, it looks like management intends to place dual class large RJs on the L-XJT side. Looks like the ASA pilot group doesn't have the leverage they thought they had.
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Are you L-XJET? If not, there's your answer.
no, but neither is Trip7. I think it's great for you guys. Assuming it will be some type of swap eventually? Why can't anyone just post the meat of the blast?
Old 01-03-2013 | 07:44 AM
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The blast was only to the L-XJT pilots from their MEC. Not sure if it was in the same blast or an earlier one but they also told their pilot group that the ASA MEC has informed the company and the XJT MEC that they won't consider any PBS system other than Flight Line.

We got a Fiscal Cliff type situation here where if we don't come together everybody is screwed.
Old 01-03-2013 | 07:45 AM
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Originally Posted by unit monster:1322873
Originally Posted by Trip7
Whelp, it looks like management intends to place dual class large RJs on the L-XJT side. Looks like the ASA pilot group doesn't have the leverage they thought they had.
Originally Posted by ASAnotASAP
Are you L-XJET? If not, there's your answer.
no, but neither is Trip7. I think it's great for you guys. Assuming it will be some type of swap eventually? Why can't anyone just post the meat of the blast?
I found out this morning on FI
Old 01-03-2013 | 07:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Trip7
We got a Fiscal Cliff type situation here where if we don't come together everybody is screwed.
No we don't; they just want you to think that. Mission accomplished!
Old 01-03-2013 | 08:00 AM
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[=newarkblows;1322216]It was the same thread that you called working at ASA the "big leagues" ... remember it now? I probably would have tried to block it mentally too.

Our MEC just put out an email explaining how the ASA MEC has said that any contract without flightline in it will not pass their vote. They have done this despite the two other parties involved explaining that flightline is not a reasonable request. The company would have it but with major sections of the current ASA scheduling section rewritten because it has not come close to its projected cost savings. Vacation low would be gone and the end product is an unknown quantity. Our MEC has researched pbs systems and found one that resolves almost every parties issues and yet because it does not have a flightline name it is not even an option. The ASA MEC has done next to zero research, is sticking their head in the sand hoping to save their current flightline system and workrules (management said no), and is unwilling to negotiate on anything that negatively affects the top 5% of pilots for the betterment of 95% of the combined pilot group.

So who is unwilling to negotiate now? Oh that was just the ASA MEC's trolls on here spouting lies. Keep up the smear campaign
Now that someone dug up that quote in context, I stand behind it. See the bottom.

As for the rest of your post, it is nothing but speculation and rumor. I haven't seen the email... go ahead and post it. Your MEC lies to you guys constantly, so why should I care what they tell you guys now? It wasn't long ago that their position was no PBS and 20% raises. They sold you out on that too, apparently.

Originally Posted by EMBFlyer
They don't post here, but their hired thugs and mouthpieces (Captain Tony and JoeMerchant) do. Might as well be reading the words right out of Mankameyer's mouth when they post.
BAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!! This only proves how ignorant you are. Our MEC hates me and JM more than any other, because we're the most vocal at holding them accountable, and have a history of organizing recalls and decertification drives.

Originally Posted by Jetlinker
When I say 'ASA Trolls,' I mean Joe Merchant and Captain Tony, not the entire ASA pilot group.
Name calling is a TOS violation. But without trolls, what fun would the internet be. you XJT folks take everything so seriously. Lighten up Francis.

Originally Posted by IBPilot
I got superbored so I searched "gouge" and "cheating" or something......im guessing with 2 seconds of research this is what they are talking about?

[Originally Posted by Captain Tony
Exactly! Many of you will take this the wrong way, and so be it, but if you need to do major studying and "gouges" (whatever that is) to take an airline interview test with questions from the ATP written, then I'm sorry, but you're not ready for prime time!

When you end up in the right seat of a jet, you are not there to learn how to fly, you are there to assist the Captain and learn to be a Captain someday. You should already know how to fly and possess all of the required information. If you use the "gouges" and fake your way through the interview, you will be in for a rude awakening when you get to the line!

I'm not trying to be mean, I'm stating a fact. Captains are happy to help you learn the airline system, but it you don't know the basics we have little patience.
Thanks for finding it and providing the context. Yes, I told a GA guy who couldn't even type proper grammar that a couple of days studying wasn't going to help him if he couldn't fly a jet simulator and didn't have the knowledge base to pass an ATP written. And I stand behind that comment.

Originally Posted by Trip7
I found out this morning on FI
Oh, well then it MUST be true!
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