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Old 09-01-2014 | 12:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Spoilers
What's with the rumor of us getting a flow program to United? To be announced in December.
Ha. Same carrot being rumored over at OO. Don't believe the hype.
Old 09-01-2014 | 12:25 PM
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Originally Posted by velosnow
Ha. Same carrot being rumored over at OO. Don't believe the hype.
The UAL MEC will not allow it. There was a motion adopted unanimously ALPA National that will have ALPA carriers only hire from ALPA regionals. Not much in the way of teeth but a flow from OO to UAL? Not likely.
Old 09-01-2014 | 12:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Redundant Guy
The UAL MEC will not allow it. There was a motion adopted unanimously ALPA National that will have ALPA carriers only hire from ALPA regionals. Not much in the way of teeth but a flow from OO to UAL? Not likely.

Especially since it was the UAL MEC who made the open houses only for ALPA pilots.
Old 09-01-2014 | 02:11 PM
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I don't believe it for other reasons actually, but plenty of my OO cohorts are freshly sitting in right seats of UAL guppies & 75/76 right now. Besides, I'd rather get hired on my own merits as others would too I'd hope.
Old 09-01-2014 | 04:58 PM
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Originally Posted by xjtpilot
XJT is not wholly owned, I don't think they could develop a flow, and why would you want a flow?
I don't want a flow, I was just seeing if anyone else has been fed this line the past few weeks while at work. I've been in this industry long enough not to fall for stuff like this.
Old 09-02-2014 | 04:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Spoilers
What's with the rumor of us getting a flow program to United? To be announced in December.
It probably has something to do with the UAL MEC Chairman running for ALPA President...
Old 09-02-2014 | 07:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Spoilers
I don't want a flow, I was just seeing if anyone else has been fed this line the past few weeks while at work. I've been in this industry long enough not to fall for stuff like this.

It has been the hot talk in the crew room...but any of us with sense know this is not going to happen for a huge number of reasons, but the primary reasons being:

1. There are enough applicants for DL, UA and AA for the next 3-5 years in Captains alone from all the regionals...not to mention the FOs...the overwhelming majority of major new hire classes have been filled with military guys/gals to date. Regional attrition to the majors hasn't even scratched the surface yet of it's full potential.

2. What makes one regional different or "better" than the other? Why would a major choose one regional for it's "flow" over another? What if United went to GoJet and proposed a flow, or chose the L-ASA group over L-XJT's pilot group etc etc? The only "flows" that will be set up will be at the wholly owned level and they'll be nothing but a bait and switch written in "iron clad" language that can be undone with the simple pull of a string, or "per the company's discretion."

Now, will a "flow" be set up within 5-10 years after this proposed "shortage" takes full affect as so many claim? Perhaps, but the only way to get to a major right now is to earn it.
Old 09-02-2014 | 08:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Captain Tony
It probably has something to do with the UAL MEC Chairman running for ALPA President...
Not your first rodeo?
Old 09-02-2014 | 09:05 AM
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Originally Posted by MrMustache
Things that won't happen. The United flow rumors have been going around for over a year. Commutair even heard that rumor.
Longer than that actually. When the UCAL JCBA talks started there were rumors of it.

What was that, 3+ years ago now?
Old 09-02-2014 | 09:08 AM
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Not your first rodeo?
That was sarcasm. Heppner has been making "promises" to all the regional MECs for the last couple of months now. His throwing his hat in the ring is no surprise at all.
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