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Old 09-02-2014 | 11:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Wynncore
It has been the hot talk in the crew room...but any of us with sense know this is not going to happen for a huge number of reasons, but the primary reasons being:

1. There are enough applicants for DL, UA and AA for the next 3-5 years in Captains alone from all the regionals...not to mention the FOs...the overwhelming majority of major new hire classes have been filled with military guys/gals to date. Regional attrition to the majors hasn't even scratched the surface yet of it's full potential.

2. What makes one regional different or "better" than the other? Why would a major choose one regional for it's "flow" over another? What if United went to GoJet and proposed a flow, or chose the L-ASA group over L-XJT's pilot group etc etc? The only "flows" that will be set up will be at the wholly owned level and they'll be nothing but a bait and switch written in "iron clad" language that can be undone with the simple pull of a string, or "per the company's discretion."

Now, will a "flow" be set up within 5-10 years after this proposed "shortage" takes full affect as so many claim? Perhaps, but the only way to get to a major right now is to earn it.
The issue isn't do the majors have enough applicants. The issue is do they want the regional lift staffed or will they just cancel flights when the time comes. Attrition at XJT will begin to hit in the 100/month range soon. What are their options to slow that? If they don't need the flights, then no retention ideas will be proposed. At 100 pilots/month, things will get very ugly very quickly. Will be fun to watch.
Old 09-02-2014 | 11:33 AM
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Originally Posted by CaptainNameless
The issue isn't do the majors have enough applicants. The issue is do they want the regional lift staffed or will they just cancel flights when the time comes. Attrition at XJT will begin to hit in the 100/month range soon. What are their options to slow that? If they don't need the flights, then no retention ideas will be proposed. At 100 pilots/month, things will get very ugly very quickly. Will be fun to watch.
I think UAL is about to do what DAL did after their merger and drop a lot of smaller (less profitable) markets, and hence, the airplanes that fly to them.
Old 09-02-2014 | 12:29 PM
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I think UAL is about to do what DAL did after their merger and drop a lot of smaller (less profitable) markets, and hence, the airplanes that fly to them.
That would make a lot of sense for them.
Old 09-02-2014 | 12:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Captain Tony
I think UAL is about to do what DAL did after their merger and drop a lot of smaller (less profitable) markets, and hence, the airplanes that fly to them.
Or just cutting frequency would go along way... there is no reason they need to be flying between ORD/EWR/IAH - SMALL****TYCITY 10 times a day.
Old 09-02-2014 | 05:17 PM
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Originally Posted by air101
Or just cutting frequency would go along way... there is no reason they need to be flying between ORD/EWR/IAH - SMALL****TYCITY 10 times a day.
Bingo! Instead of 2-3 flights a day on a 50 seater, it will be 1 flight on a large RJ, with higher ticket prices.
Old 09-02-2014 | 05:27 PM
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Originally Posted by wmupilot85
Bingo! Instead of 2-3 flights a day on a 50 seater, it will be 1 flight on a large RJ, with higher ticket prices.
One flight on a 737-700 or A319 would do it.
Old 09-02-2014 | 05:54 PM
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Originally Posted by AtlCSIP
One flight on a 737-700 or A319 would do it.

That would be great! I can only hope they park RJs at regionals to do this!
Old 09-02-2014 | 05:58 PM
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Originally Posted by AtlCSIP
One flight on a 737-700 or A319 would do it.

Or once a week on a 380...

It doesn't work like that. You cant get 210 people out of/ in to Moline Il. once a day... but you can get 70 people out/in 3 times a day.
Old 09-02-2014 | 08:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Nevets
That would be great! I can only hope they park RJs at regionals to do this!
What would be great is you leaving and actually executing your plan b,c, or d ....Sadly, you won't and you will just continue to whine here...

I hear you sicked out during the sick out....
Old 09-02-2014 | 09:00 PM
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Originally Posted by JoeMerchant
What would be great is you leaving and actually executing your plan b,c, or d ....Sadly, you won't and you will just continue to whine here...

I hear you sicked out during the sick out....

Patience, I'm still working on plan c. Somehow I know that post would rub you the wrong way. But yeah, I'm at home, sick. Is that what you are talking about?
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