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Old 09-11-2014, 08:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Ftrooppilot
"Why buy a cow when milk is free ?" Endeavor does not need more pilots. They need more airplanes (CRJ9). When they are down to 1300 pilots, have four CRJ9 sims at MSP, and most of the 200s are parked, it may be time for Delta to "shuffle" airplanes around similar to what happened with Envoy /PSA.
Your guess is as good as mine. Well, unless you're R.A. I wasn't the least bit serious when I posted that. It's just odd that some on the ASA side are thinking they'll get more planes. Wait and see, I guess
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Old 09-11-2014, 11:56 AM
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Originally Posted by gojo
Your guess is as good as mine. Well, unless you're R.A. I wasn't the least bit serious when I posted that. It's just odd that some on the ASA side are thinking they'll get more planes. Wait and see, I guess
I would be surprised to see either side get any more airframes prior to a joint contract. I think the best shot we have at good news is a short term extension for some of our retiring airframes due to an inability for mainline, or other connection/express carrier, to cover the flying in the short term.
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Old 09-11-2014, 12:16 PM
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If ASA gets aircraft from endeavor, at least they would be going to a better pilot contract, so I assume. It's too bad that with these types of deals, pilots can't come over with those aircraft.
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Old 09-11-2014, 07:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Nevets
If ASA gets aircraft from endeavor, at least they would be going to a better pilot contract, so I assume. It's too bad that with these types of deals, pilots can't come over with those aircraft.
Unfortunately (for them), they can....at the bottom of the list.
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Old 09-12-2014, 04:47 AM
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Originally Posted by XJT Pilot
Those pilots need to be shunned, not given an opportunity at LASA what they did with voting in that contract has set us all back.
Oh, you mean just how your MEC did when the ASA was close to possible furloughs. At least our MEC went to bat to get your guys back to work. No such favor was returned. The Pinnacle guys are still pilots, just like you (maybe) and I. Likely junior guys that may not even had the opportunity to vote. And we should shun them? Classless comment.
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Old 09-12-2014, 05:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Redundant Guy
Oh, you mean just how your MEC did when the ASA was close to possible furloughs. At least our MEC went to bat to get your guys back to work. No such favor was returned. The Pinnacle guys are still pilots, just like you (maybe) and I. Likely junior guys that may not even had the opportunity to vote. And we should shun them? Classless comment.
First comment isn't true and is just another nasty rumor from one person on the flamebaiting MEC. Go back like ten pages in this thread. It was an mou on the lxjt side. It ended up not being needed but it was there. Maybe if your mec would promote factual information instead of gossip mongering online with half truths and misinformation two sides could come together.

I think they need to work out a deal where Alpa furloughs jump to year 3 or 4 pay as newhires at another alpa regional.
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Old 09-12-2014, 06:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Redundant Guy
Oh, you mean just how your MEC did when the ASA was close to possible furloughs. At least our MEC went to bat to get your guys back to work. No such favor was returned. The Pinnacle guys are still pilots, just like you (maybe) and I. Likely junior guys that may not even had the opportunity to vote. And we should shun them? Classless comment.

You sir, do you smoke crack!?

The XJT MEC has no power to save jobs that ASA MEC itself cannot save!

The XJT side can't even save their own skins. You can't lame the ASA MEC for the economic conditions that threaten LXJT pilot jobs.

Get some business acumen, and stop flaming!



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Old 09-12-2014, 06:38 AM
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Originally Posted by XJT Pilot
Those pilots need to be shunned, not given an opportunity at LASA what they did with voting in that contract has set us all back.
Are you going to shun Eagle as well? They also voted in a concessionary LOA.

I'm glad you guys get to bargain against the Endeavor contract which has some dollar value rather than an environment where management would tell you that "if you get 2011 Endeavor JCBA wages we will be in Ch 7 like them".

You're welcome.
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Old 09-12-2014, 06:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Redundant Guy
Oh, you mean just how your MEC did when the ASA was close to possible furloughs. At least our MEC went to bat to get your guys back to work. No such favor was returned.
The furlough deals were reciprocal. Who told you otherwise? You may pm me if you wish.

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First comment isn't true and is just another nasty rumor from one person on the flamebaiting MEC. Go back like ten pages in this thread. It was an mou on the lxjt side. It ended up not being needed but it was there. Maybe if your mec would promote factual information instead of gossip mongering online with half truths and misinformation two sides could come together.

I think they need to work out a deal where Alpa furloughs jump to year 3 or 4 pay as newhires at another alpa regional.
Oh yes, flame my entire MEC for the misguided comment of one line pilot. This folks is why this merger has failed. Can't imagine why they don't want to do business with you guys when this is how they get treated.
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Old 09-12-2014, 06:53 AM
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Originally Posted by XJT Pilot
Those pilots need to be shunned, not given an opportunity at LASA what they did with voting in that contract has set us all back.
the Pinnacle (Endeavor) pilots voted with a gun to their heads. It was Delta's gun, and ALPA was holding it. I don't blame them for what they did and will gladly walk any of their resumes in if they want to come here.

PSA, however is another story...
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