What's the Latest at ASA/Expressjet?
03-04-2015, 05:10 PM
#8971
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Posts: 532
Originally Posted by Check Complete
Any credible reason as to why a new check list is needed?
03-04-2015, 05:20 PM
#8972
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Joined APC: Jan 2009
Position: 737 Left
Posts: 1,825
Originally Posted by Whiplash6
The FAA says there has to be a common checklist.
03-04-2015, 06:39 PM
#8973
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Joined APC: Apr 2009
Position: A320 CA
Posts: 705
I like it. There are a few things that could have been done better in my opinion but I'm sure everyone feels that way. eg. The Arrival check could have just been called the Approach Check, eliminating the need to refer to a briefing as an "arrival briefing". 
That just sounds a little off but hey, just nitpicking. I promise I got used to every thing by the end of a 4 day, but I'll be damned if I could remember to say "Set Thrust". 
That just sounds a little off but hey, just nitpicking. I promise I got used to every thing by the end of a 4 day, but I'll be damned if I could remember to say "Set Thrust".
03-04-2015, 07:12 PM
#8974
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Joined APC: Aug 2006
Position: CRJ CA
Posts: 328
Originally Posted by AtlCSIP
Which makes perfect sense as to why only the CRJ side did it.
Harmonization is a requirement of the SOC from the merger.
The verbiage and checklist flows try to mirror the best of both sides.
Basically, all the same stuff is in the new checklist, things are just moved around to better spots, some things were eliminated.
The CRJ checklist came from the Canadair manuals. It really wasn't "airline operation" specific. More like engineer specific. There was too much chatter back and forth at more critical times. I.e taxi out, line up and wait and the decent. That really now is just the PM verifying the completed items. Much better if you ask me.
03-04-2015, 08:09 PM
#8975
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Joined APC: Dec 2014
Posts: 532
Originally Posted by Speedbird2263
I like it. There are a few things that could have been done better in my opinion but I'm sure everyone feels that way. eg. The Arrival check could have just been called the Approach Check, eliminating the need to refer to a briefing as an "arrival briefing". That just sounds a little off but hey, just nitpicking. I promise I got used to every thing by the end of a 4 day, but I'll be damned if I could remember to say "Set Thrust".
That just sounds a little off but hey, just nitpicking. I promise I got used to every thing by the end of a 4 day, but I'll be damned if I could remember to say "Set Thrust".
03-05-2015, 04:17 AM
#8976
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Joined APC: Aug 2006
Position: CRJ CA
Posts: 328
Originally Posted by Whiplash6
The brain trust behind that debacle of a checklist could've learned a lesson from "keep it simple stupid". That junk is way over complicated.
03-05-2015, 06:27 AM
#8977
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Joined APC: Nov 2011
Posts: 218
Just popping in with a random observation, but isn't it funny how suddenly in the past 3-4 months Management starts parading around these senior captains on the xjt homepage touting how Expressjet is a great place to make a career. Are they genuinely recognizing these folks' entire career contributions to the company or also sending a (subliminal) message to pilots with 10-15 years who may be on the fence about leaving?
03-05-2015, 07:50 AM
#8978
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Joined APC: Jul 2013
Position: CRJ200 CA
Posts: 577
Originally Posted by AceyCandler
Just popping in with a random observation, but isn't it funny how suddenly in the past 3-4 months Management starts parading around these senior captains on the xjt homepage touting how Expressjet is a great place to make a career. Are they genuinely recognizing these folks' entire career contributions to the company or also sending a (subliminal) message to pilots with 10-15 years who may be on the fence about leaving?
03-05-2015, 08:58 AM
#8979
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They're also touting this as the one regional that treats its pilots with respect, but;
they find ways to give occurrences for a properly used commuter clause rather than give the benefit of the doubt.
They illegally misuse FMLA to manage a disrepectful occurrence policy.
They refuse to put you up in domicile when you're stuck there because you did them a favor in the first place.
And there are many other examples of where the company falls short on delivering a mutually respectful and professional working environment.
Senior management is trying to present a culture that middle management ensures doesn't exist.
Things really haven't changed culturally over the 15 years I've been here and now I'm starting my job search to go somewhere else, in or out of the industry.
they find ways to give occurrences for a properly used commuter clause rather than give the benefit of the doubt.
They illegally misuse FMLA to manage a disrepectful occurrence policy.
They refuse to put you up in domicile when you're stuck there because you did them a favor in the first place.
And there are many other examples of where the company falls short on delivering a mutually respectful and professional working environment.
Senior management is trying to present a culture that middle management ensures doesn't exist.
Things really haven't changed culturally over the 15 years I've been here and now I'm starting my job search to go somewhere else, in or out of the industry.
03-05-2015, 11:36 AM
#8980
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Posts: 453
Originally Posted by AceyCandler
Just popping in with a random observation, but isn't it funny how suddenly in the past 3-4 months Management starts parading around these senior captains on the xjt homepage touting how Expressjet is a great place to make a career. Are they genuinely recognizing these folks' entire career contributions to the company or also sending a (subliminal) message to pilots with 10-15 years who may be on the fence about leaving?
Why do you think Compass and companies that have experienced large, rapid growth recently have such low costs? Everyone there is so low on longevity. The longevity is harming XJT when it comes to competing.
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