1. You will hold secondary and reserve lines right out of training. The junior secondary lines will most likely be all reserve. The most junior 777FO line holder has been on property since roughly January 2018. I’d say it would be at least a couple years to hold a line but that’s only based on past performance.
2. I wouldn’t say they are much more senior. RFO lines seem to be dispersed pretty evenly throughout the lines that people were awarded.
3. I bet the next system bid happens a little sooner than that but who knows. Captain training seems to be happening much earlier due to growth and retirements. It seems like we are at max training capacity and FOs going to different fleets are getting pushed back because we need to train all the new FOs we are hiring.

I’d love to hear from someone that REALLY knows the deal how our massive bids and drawn out training letters save the company money..

 

That's been upped to 72 a month. Happening now. Goal is now 36 in class, twice a month.

 

Two west coast questions:
1) OAK is going very junior in the class drops, but is it likely to become more senior once it's established and fully staffed? i.e. if someone is hired in the next few months do they have a chance to get there within a couple years?
2) Is LAX super senior?

Thank you!

 

1) If hired within the next few months and awarded either the 757 MEM or the 767 MEM or IND (assuming can’t hold OAK) then one would stand a very good chance of being awarded OAK on next bid. No one knows when that will be and nothing is guaranteed.

2) LAX is senior but has become more junior in the right seat over the last few years. LAX is currently only an MD11 base so the future is a little less clear than OAK.

Good luck.

 

Thank you! Good to know. I have an invite and am trying to guess my chances for OAK (if I’m fortunate enough to get hired). Hope OAK takes a little longer to “fill up” so there’s some spots left in a few months.

 

What’s the latest & greatest on CGN 75? How senior is it for FOs to make it out there?

 

Filled up to 90% on System Bid 20-02, so there are a few New Hire slots when they offer them. But even the guys on the current bid award/training letter have not been able to transition over there due to COVID restrictions.

 

Great. Thank you.

 

Not sure if this is the right thread to ask, but recently received a CJO and was told to expect class in August. I am getting married in October and worried about timing class around wedding and honeymoon. Does anyone have experience with this or know who to contact in training department to talk to about this?

 

if you started in the 5 August 767 class (BI date would be prior to that) your projected finish date is 20 October. That would include IOE and could be a little longer or shorter based on LCA availability. Sim availability can also change that date. You may be able to work with the IOE scheduler to get a week off after simulators but I would not count on it.